Letters to the Editor
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heh.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
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Progressive Democrats of America
After reading this disturbing (but illuminating) post this morning, I received an e-mail solicitation from Senator Russ Feingold and Progressive Democrats of America asking for recurring monthly donations for their cause from now through November. I responded by committing $25 per month, in the hopes that (although small), this effort will help counter the reprehensible action by these so-called "centrist" Democrats.
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Yellow Dog on Blue Dogs
Blue Dogs are traitors, spies in the Democratic camp, saboteurs and underminers who cause far more damage from within than republican could ever cause from without.
-- Yellow Dog
On top of all of that the media and the Republicans use the Blue Dog votes and stances on positions to run with that old stand-by, "In a bi-partisan vote today the House of Representatives passed a bill to declare Joo-Joo Bees illegal, except in emergency medical situations".
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Nuke Carney
If this group decides to spend money to defeat Carney, they should make a real show of doing it so that every other Bluedog sonsabitch knows exactly what's in store for him/her in the future.
If Steny Hoyer bitches, put the bullseye on his back next time and send his ass back home.
These people are the worst vermin.
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-- L.W.M.
"heh."
Somewhere, there is a village missing its idiot, eh?
Along this same line however, is the truth of what is currently happening in Iraq. It would appear that we are making the same damned mistakes there that we made in Afghanistan in the 80s.
I figure this bunch will mature just about in time to take down the Freedom Tower when its finished.
And you know what? Shooter and his ilk still won't admit screwing the pooch.
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Some eedjit wrote:
In some cases ignorance is bliss. Perhaps you should consider that the process is so rigorous that by the time an application gets to the FISA court it is polished to near perfection. Here is a shorthand version of the process and the people and agencies that massage each and every application. It's from 1997 but essentially the same as now.
When the FBI is the lead agency for a counterintelligence activity, an application under the FISA has a different route for approval.
(1) The counterintelligence section of the FBI field office develops the facts of the case.
(2) An FBI counterintelligence supervisory agent, located at the headquarters level, is responsible for developing the facts to support the FISA application.
(3) The FBI General Counsel’s Office will then review the application and
(4) obtain the approval and certification of the Director of the FBI.
(5) Afterwards, the OIPR will prepare the final electronic surveillance application to ensure that it meets all statutory requirements.
(6) The Attorney General is the final review and approval authority before presentation to a FISC judge. This process can be very speedy if the installation works with the FBI to ensure that the application contains the most accurate and statutorily required information. http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/sojudge.pdf
Obviously it's not that hard. But I have no problems with their being careful, deliberate, and taking time to dot the "i"s and cross the "t"s. Why it should be otherwise, I dunno .... oh, yeah, it is otherwise; audits have uncovered massive abuse, illegality and sloppiness in the issuing of NSLs by the Dubya maladministration, for instance.
Any disapproval from any of the 5 supervisory reviews is enough to change the application or kill it all together....
And this is a problem?
That's what happened to the flying lesson information and the inability to look at Moussaoui's laptop around 9/11.
No. The gummint had the information about the flying schools. They sat on it or ignored it. NIH syndrome.
As for the laptop, it was some middle manager that sat on that one, and Dubya gave him a "merit bonus" subsequent to that "good work" while the rest the federal gummint had a pay freeze in effect. "You're doing a heckuva job...."
Suffice it to say it's not like TV where warrants are obtainable within the minutes ads run.
WTF do you know about getting warrants, Sh**ter? Why do you assume that wethink telly's reality? It's you RW foamers that pretend that docudrama and outright fiction are the real "reality"....
Cheers,
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Why is it...
...I'm more scared of my own government than anything some shadowy terrorist organization can dish at me?
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Shooter
Why? I have to ask you.
Why do you come on here each and every day, spew a few lies and absurd theories that are quickly exposed as such, and then retreat back under your rock once you've been sufficiently ridiculed?
Actually, my question is, what brings you back for more? I feel like if I could understand this, I would have a better grasp on human nature.
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You shouldn't be surprised
Thank you for your tireless reporting on the evaportation of our civil liberties, apparently through the conspiracy of both political parties. I may be in the minority but as I person who pays in excess of $100 monthly to my cell phone company, excuse if if I have formed some reasonable expectation of privacy regarding my conversations.
I run a business myself and would certainly like immunity from suit from my customers if I breach my contract with them, but I'm not holding my breath I will get it. Unfortuntately I don't have a multi-billion dollar lobby to advocate for me.
As usual, follow the money.
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re: a village missing its idiot
I rec'd the email from an in-law. She's actually a very intelligent woman, escaped Nazi Germany as a 4 year old, and genuinely fearful.
I received the email yesterday; 1 of my 3 responses included the Snope link. But if there's any truth in the email, that it has been circulating the Internet for 6 1/2 years, that's a lot of "village idiots."
In the end, the belief in this crap is not funny and it definitely is a mistake to dismiss the people who read, believe, and pass it on.
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More about Carney from wikipedia
During the campaign, Carney raised money with a wide-variety of supporters including Sen. Barack Obama, Sen Joe Biden[15], Rep. Jay Inslee[16], Rep. Jack Murtha[17], and Richard Perle, a leading Bush Administration advocate of war with Iraq who more recently has criticized the decision to go to war[18] Douglas Feith, another Pentagon hawk, congratulated Carney on Election Night.[19]
However, Carney is not enthusiastic about investigations of pre-war intelligence. “The more energy spent on answering Congressional investigations, the less time will be spent on winning the war,” he said.[21]
Why does fieth like carney and why is carney against looking into the investigations of pre-war intelligence?
From 2002 to 2004, Carney served as a counterterrorism analyst for the Bush administration, under Douglas Feith in the Office of Special Plans, developing links between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.[22]
That's why!
Also, this from wiki which is innaccurate and I hope not prescient:
In 2008 he was instrumental in allowing Republicans to pass the FISA bill granting telecommunications companies immunity from prosecution for their involvement in warrantless wiretapping of American citizens, including his sending a letter to Speaker Pelosi encouraging her not to fight the bill.
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