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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:00 AM

Why the Jeremiah Wright story deserves more attention

Some problem-plagued nations could ill afford to devote so much time and energy to a matter of this sort. Thankfully, the U.S. isn't one of them.

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:31 PM

Obama is finished

Rev. Wright hates America because, among other things, he is willing to point out that it is not beyond the pale for the United States Government to use its citizens as lab animals for research - which every educated person on the face of the planet already knows to be the truth. Drugs, disease, radioactive particles, mind control, etc. Simply pointing out the truth - that many of our government's policies and practices have been/are exceptionally evil makes Rev. Wright unAmerican. Did the U.S. government engineer AIDS? Probably not. Did they take a sample and introduce it into the population? Doubtful perhaps... but beyond comprehension? Get serious.

Most American's can't process the truth. Rather, they will not. No one wants to believe that they are responsible/accountable for immoral and/or illegal acts/atrocities. So, the people will not take any type of responsibility. It is very convenient. When their government commits some horrible crime in the people's name, and that crime cannot be hidden, the people throw up their hands and claim they have no control. And then, instead of hanging (literally) those directly responsible in order to set the precedent and perhaps end the cycle, they vote for more of the same in the hopes that next time it will be different. It is madness. It is America.

Obama is finished IMO. You think Rev. Wright is the end of this type of swiftboating horse-shit? Not even close. Obama may get the nomination but he is a dead candidate walking in the general. You can count on adding "sell-out" to Obama's list of faults. I would imagine he will lose at least some of the African-American vote because of his comments today. I am not African-American but he would have lost my vote (had he ever it). And those same "bitter," small town Americans will be convinced, once again, to vote against their interests (not that they have any real choice given the candidates) because, well... they are Americans after all. They are exceptional. Americans are the last best hope for the world. McCain and Clinton have been and will continue to make sure they feel good about themselves. It's the ultimate trump card. Obama is too late to the party. He didn't placate and lie enough from jump. Perhaps he never had a chance in the first place but he didn't convince the true massuh's that he would play the faithful house negro and now it has caught up with him.

Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:08 PM

adnoto

Wanna feel good about yourself? Go take a flying fuck at the moon.

Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:37 PM

By all means, discuss only Rev. Wright!

Hell, I love the unending coverage of Rev. Wright. Greenwald's right: There really isn't anything else worth jawing about.

Fortunately, we have a government that adheres strictly to the law and Constitution; we have a foreign policy that has resulted in enduring peace and international respect;

and we have a press that reports the news without fear or favor.

Say, about Obama's shitty bowling. . . .

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:33 AM

I would prefer to just howl

adnoto

Wanna feel good about yourself? Go take a flying fuck at the moon. -- manos99

?

Lol... I take it you disagree with something I wrote? That's fine of course. What specifically? I can tell from your other posts that you are a big Obama supporter. You believe he still has a good chance? Is that what you took issue with. How do you see it all playing out now?

Or is your irritation with my post due to the fact that not everyone is dumb enough to believe that Mr. Obama is an agent for true change? 'Cause - he isn't. He is just a less offensive, faux populist, neo-liberal who currently, desperately wants everyone to know how much he "loves America."

You might be able to convince me he still has a legitimate chance to pull it out - maybe. But if you are going to try and sell the "Obama is fundamentally different" line... well, you are welcome to delude yourself but you won't be converting me. Kucinich and Nader are fundamentally different. Perhaps Obama could have been. From what I can tell, he seems a very decent human being and, in that regard, he is a damn sight better than the other two. But, an agent for real change? Er... no.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:41 AM

adnoto

What i DO want to sell you is a first class ticket to take a flying fuck at the moon.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:46 AM

Hmmm...

adnoto

What i DO want to sell you is a first class ticket to take a flying fuck at the moon. -- manos99

I can see that you are not really up for a discussion. Ok, np.

How much for the first class ticket then?

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:59 AM

Missing the point

As is true of so many who like to shill for Obama (and since, like him, you were a lawyer, it's a natural affinity we will excuse for now), you seem to forget how integrally the way Obama has handled this matter speaks volumes about his ability to be a successful leader...not knowing when you need to sever relations from someone who is toxic to your cause is a sure sign of bad leadership...George Bush has suffered the same problem with some of the people around him...we don't need a repeat of that disastrous leadership style. In addition, this speaks to Obama's poor judgement: the same poor judgement that has gotten him in the middle of dealing with nefarious and sneaky characters in the whole Rezco debacle which involves statewide corruption in Illinois...an issue that Obama apologists ignore and the mainstream media gives little attention to...yet Patrick Fitzgerald's indictments, if they arrive before the fall, could spell a quick and decisive end to Obama's ambitions for good...it is THAT bad for him.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 01:26 AM

The ticket?

It's on the house asshole, give my regards to the man on the moon.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008 01:33 AM

No Toes

Did they take a sample and introduce it into the population? Doubtful perhaps... but beyond comprehension? Get serious.

That is beyond comprehension for anyone intelligent, serious and knowledgeable enough to know better. It's not LSD. They are usually more circumspect and careful about that sort of thing when it comes to infectious agents are involved. They take precautions.

Most American's can't process the truth. Rather, they will not. No one wants to believe that they are responsible/accountable for immoral and/or illegal acts/atrocities.

So true, No Toes. . IOW, Everyone. It is a human trait. You find it in every group, nationality, sect, creed, religion, culture and ethnicity. Even in Japan or Germany today there are nationalists or militarists who deny any war crimes or atrocities took place during WWII. To this very day.

You can't dance either.

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