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Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:00 AM

John McCain and Bush's torture powers

The alleged anti-torture maverick has done more to enable and legalize torture than any other political figure in the U.S.

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Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:09 PM

Swift Boats and Slow Men

McCain shouldn't be swiftboated? What? For the good, nay, the very survival of the country, McCain must be swiftboated because:

(Oh how I want to write this in screamin' caps)

If he can't deal with a little swift-boating, how is he gonna deal with Osama Bin Laden? Or that Iranian guy? Isn't that a fair and reasonable question? I remember it was with Kerry.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:14 PM

I'll gladly troll

I yearn

When will this little squabbles start breaking out in my comment sections? I yearn for the day...

-- DCLaw1

your comments section but I feel my reputation is such that it has earned me the right to expect a small stipend or remuneration for services rendered.

Just kidding. I do intend to visit. And be careful what you wish for.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:19 PM

LWM, it's a Blog,

not a sausage factory. They don't pay by the link.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:35 PM

DCLaw1' New Rhetorical Abbatoir

Chris, you're such a nice guy. What's got into you, inviting all us ruffians over? I'll have to see if I can find my reading glasses so's I can decipher googleblogger's funny words. (There's time, in other words, to rescind the invitation.)

Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:43 PM

@WT

When my kid decided to join the military without consulting me or his mother, I had a difficult time explaining to his mom that there really are no "safe jobs" in the military. Her family was navy, mine army. I cannot think of a more dangerous job in the armed forces than the flight deck of a carrier. It's not really any safer during peace time than war time. People jump out of perfectly good airplanes for fun and recreation but she was convinced that the navy might be safer than army airborne. If people want to float questionable rumors about McCain, I have no problem with that. Glenn doesn't do it but this is an A list blog and the place for that kind of "campaign" is your local bar.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:45 PM

You're a funny guy!

LWM, it's a Blog,

not a sausage factory. They don't pay by the link.

-- Derbig Mooser

Funny haha and funny strange.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:07 PM

@LWM

I might be strange, but I never had the illusion that anybody would pay me to comment.

But then again, perhaps you link-slinging skills are deserving of an emolument. Or is that something you rub on your hands?

Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:15 PM

Anchors Aweigh!

When my kid decided to join the military without consulting me or his mother

"You never know how much you know until your kids grow up and tell you how much you don't know"- Groucho Marx

Monday, April 28, 2008 12:00 AM

2 things

...perhaps you link-slinging skills are deserving of an emolument. Or is that something you rub on your hands? -- Derbig Mooser

Whatever you do, don't rub it on sugarman. He might enjoy it. Nice job last night BTW. I quietly watched you demolish him in real time. Like a giddy Gideon you vanquished him utterly -- and salted his feelings. It was a take down of Biblical proportions.

Having said something uncharacteristically kind, I now feel compelled to say -- I don't want to read your posts about "wet starts" anymore. It's an unnecessary cheap shot given all the material out there on McCain that pertains to his fitness for the Presidency. And when you come off looking as good as you did last night, you want to cover yourself in virtue henceforth.

For at least a few days.

Monday, April 28, 2008 12:17 AM

Wet Start or Wet Kiss?

Which one do you want to give him?Jesus Christ! When it comes to McCain, we Democrats have to protect him, too? We are becoming a party of goddam concern trolls.

That's not a good thing to do. Let's assure Mr. McCain, and his handlers, that we will allow them to control the narrative concerning McCain's record,and area of greatest vulnerability, and they will enlarge the "untouchable" region to cover every goddam thing about him!

Don't you know this pattern? Aren't you as sick of it as I am? The first thing the Repubs always do is establish the areas on which their candidate is "Untouchable". And gee, it always happens to be the area of their greatest vulnerability in terms of electability. So we had to protect Reagan from our attacks on his incipient Alzheimers, and that was extended into a blanket permission for fantasies instead of facts. I can't even begin to number the things the first Bush had to be protected from, and by the time we got to George W, Repubs were simply untouchable. A Republican deserter could run against a Purple Heart winner and their relative positions were reversed.

I tell you again, yes, McCain should be swiftboated, long and hard, about every little thing. As LBJ said "I know it's not true, but I want to hear him deny it."

And it's just as valid as it was with Kerry. Is Osama bin laden or any of those terrorguys we are so afraid of going to nicely respect the limits that we are so willing to when they deal with McCain? I'd like to see how McCain deals with an possibly undeserved, but very embarassing story concerning his military exploits. Does he think he's entitled to adjust that story any way he wants? I'd like to see what happens when he can't.

Holly, I would call my Holistic practioner and ask her to check you for signs of Stockholm Syndrome.

Monday, April 28, 2008 12:22 AM

It Ain't Me Babe

It's an unnecessary cheap shot

Holy shit, Holly, have you got me pegged wrong. I live for the cheap shot. The cheaper the better. You couldn't see that when I "demolished" sugarman? (which I did not do, by any means)

Monday, April 28, 2008 12:26 AM

Oh Wow!

And when you come off looking as good as you did last night

You're kidding, right? Holly, my wife read the exchange and made me sleep on the couch. I was lucky I was indoors, really.

Monday, April 28, 2008 12:42 AM

What's that buzzing sound?

Holly, I would call my Holistic practitioner and ask her to check you for signs of Stockholm Syndrome. -- Derbig Mooser

Go ahead, call her. Does she do ear candling BTW? You're a little tone deaf tonight.

In regards to McCain's most useful vulnerabilities.... I think DCLaw1 has been closest to the target these past few days. I mean closer than both you and Glenn.
Creating a public perception that McCain has no control over his party apparatus -- that would touch the Republican base. They are bully boys (& girls) who despise the faintest hint of "weakness" in a candidate. They aren't going to care about his torture stance(s), regardless of how they change with time. They don't care about decisions he may have made 40 years ago. But....lack of status with their anointed kingmakers? That's an issue.

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