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Friday, April 25, 2008 12:00 AM

Skepticism toward Bush claims about Syria and North Korea

Many media accounts simply repeat uncritically the rather dubious accusations of the administration.

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Friday, April 25, 2008 05:42 AM

...."Worse still".... depravity. a ill batch plotting more crimes daily....

from Plotinus~

`

Consider that before long you will be nobody and nowhere, nor will any of the things exist which you now see, nor any of those who are now living. For all things are formed by nature to change and be turned and perish in order that other things in continuous succession may exist.

`

Thanks Mr. Glenn Greenwald. Etc., err.

I'm tempted to call you, Mr. Greenteeth.

Friday, April 25, 2008 05:53 AM

I am contemplating.... Everyone on Earth should. What a green Spring. Beauty.

Plotinous was asked by a questioner a serious question about Life/Death.

The response ~

"You ought to ask, but to understand in Silence, you, too, just as I am Silent,

and not in the habit of talking. Understand then?" A honest contemplation don't hurt.

Friday, April 25, 2008 05:57 AM

Israel violated the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty with the bombing

AFP is reporting this morning that Mohamed ElBaradai is deploring the unilateral destruction of the facility in Syria by Israel because the NPT calls for the IAEA to inspect the facility to investigate claims of proliferation. The bombing prevents such inspection. Israel felt free to break the terms of the treaty because they one of only a handful of countries that are not party to it. Click my name for more.

Friday, April 25, 2008 05:58 AM

This laywer....

Will never be renowned for being rude.

What can one do to be sent to a sheep barn? No more lawyer jokes.

The DOD and war mongers are bad clowns. I pledge a quiet day of hush-up.

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:01 AM

Skepticism towards Bush claims about Syria and North Korea

Thanks Glenn...

If ANYONE believes this is anything more than an updated (different players - same message) Doug Feith diatribe they are delusional.

Another fake video tape...edited probably on Cheeenneys 1980 home computer and the words crafted around another lie...

How long can these folks fool the population of the world??

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:02 AM

sorry Jim White. okay. Click.

Maybe I should have spelled Laywer... Lawyer or layer?

As in get some chicken eggs for garlic and scrambled morel?

The morel or moral ~ shut-up!

Wishing a end to shame faces.

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:03 AM

Skepticism

In honor of the person who visited George W. Bush last week, answering the question, "Is the White House trying to mislead us?". The answer is, "Is the Pope Catholic?"

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:07 AM

Scepticism

This story may be taken as gospel by the usual suspects, and Barbara X will breathlessly report it on CNN from the Pentagon Briefing Room. It all optics all the time. But the public at large will yawn. The candidates, terrified of the Jewish vote, will keep this at a distance. As for those pictures: let them as for Colin Powell's stamp of approval.

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:09 AM

THE PLOT THICKENS

How long before it is "explained" to us that the Plutonium was coming from IRAN itself, as part of a "Regional Nuclear Conspiracy"....?

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:10 AM

Philadelphia Steve.

No pope jokes? Does the pope poop in a Holy Outhouse? The Pope drinks Fanta orange soda with GWB. Oh, no talk to a pope, and order a pope to go into a woods to search for morels with a president. okay.

Be like Hillary? She had a Philly Steak and cheese in PA. burp.

No comment on blogs. Walk in the woods and poop. Forebear.

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:13 AM

Of course we should trust Dubya, DeadEye and Condi...

They've been so straight with us over the last seven years.

It's disgusting how the sourcing of the story Glenn quotes is just like so many other stories since 2001. Nobody in this administration wants to actually put their money where their mealy mouths are. Robert Fisk pointed this out a few years ago regarding the war in Iraq.

If the administration said that the Potomac river was brown, I'd drive to the 14th Street bridge and look for myself.

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:15 AM

How could you possibly describe this as "unlikely?"

"And even though it seems unlikely for numerous reasons, it's at least theoretically possible that the Syrians are attempting to develop a nuclear reactor for non-civilian purposes with the help of a cash-strapped North Korea."

*Syria has a nuclear-armed enemy at its border.

*Iran has gotten a great deal of attention and prestige (in certain quarters) from its work to develop nuclear weapons.

*North Korea hasn't been shy about distributing nuclear weapons technology.

What part of this scenario is in any way unlikely? In fact, it's tremendously plausible.

Also, don't you think that the extremly subdued response from Syria at the time of the attack (UN complaint, but very limited public comment, and no commentary on what exactly was hit), is rather interesting?

If your neighbor comes and burns down your garage, and you don't really do anything about it or try to call attention to it, that tends to imply that you don't want anyone poking too deeply into what exactly you had _in_ the garage.

None of this means that healthy skepticism isn't in order, but the evidence we DO have, imperfect as it may be, certainly argues that this was in fact a nuclear facility.

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:16 AM

TomHere. A bad speller?

The Plot Chickens.

Chicken flap wings.

No eat chicken salad on rye.

If TomHere had a last name ~ Hoyle?

Maybe name a child Olive? ! Hey, Olive Hoyle.

Olive Hoyle and greens with parmesan cheese.

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:17 AM

If Israel is such a good friend of ours,

Then why does it continue to spy on us? And why do we continue to look the other way and unquestioningly support Israel? Could it be that we are being used again....still?

Friday, April 25, 2008 06:24 AM

CNN's early reporting was actually fairly skeptical

This story may be taken as gospel by the usual suspects, and Barbara X will breathlessly report it on CNN from the Pentagon Briefing Room.

Actually, I saw this as it broke on CNN yesterday and was pleased at the degree to which the discussion revolved around the administration's credibility gap after the lies re: Iraq's WMDs.

"BLITZER: The accusation will be, you know, before the war in Iraq, they released information. Colin Powell was the secretary of state at the United Nations Security Council with pictures and all sorts of so-called evidence, some of which turned out to be bogus.

I'm sure they're very defensive about releasing this now. How are they maintaining that this evidence is conclusive proof that North Korea was helping Syria build a nuclear reactor?

HENRY: One of the intelligence officials insisted that they have what he called dozens of photos that he believes will back up the claim that this was, A, a nuclear reactor, and, B, that North Korea was involved as well.

And, obviously, you're right. There is clearly a credibility problem for the administration because of the flawed intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. That's why they're trying to lay out these specific images. And when we asked, why now, why for months has the Bush administration refused to talk about this, what was very interesting is that these U.S. officials are claiming that they were extremely concerned about a war breaking out in the Middle East, that the ramifications were enormous, and if this information came out several months ago, Syria would have felt the need to retaliate against Israel, and it would have led to a wider war in the Mideast.

That's their claim anyway."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/24/sitroom.03.html

At least some of the MSM are reminding people that this smells mightily like the runup to the Iraq war, Phase II.

Unfortunately, this section of the transcript is titled "Syria Nuclear Stunner", so someone at CNN is also serving up the sensational fear-mongering.

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