The NY Times piece about propaganda is propaganda

The Times has been and is the centerpiece of the NWO ,as far as newspapers go

Her history is replete with lies and distorsions

This is simply a way of trying to rehabilitate her twardy reputation

Trust us, ,,, I don't think so, They know the jig is is up

and they are seen for what they are; propagandists

Don't you think the entry price for white house and pentagon access for reporters has become toeing the administration's PR line? It is a clear parallel to the K-Street project where the price of lobbyist access to Republican-controlled governmental agencies was support for their agenda and a purging of their ranks of opposing voices.

Same deal operates here, only the benefit sought is reporters' access to government information sources (corrupted in this case by disinformation from the retired officers' corps assembled by administration's pentagon toadies) while the price didn't change significantly: unqualified support for the administration's decisions and purging of the ranks of available sources. Antiwar voices on the networks employing the retired officer bobbleheads only occurred when overbalanced by three or more administration supporters. I think the takeover of the fourth estate is effectively complete.

The pattern is so similar as to suggest looking it again in other arenas like the Departments of Justice and State...

Aych: I believe the line is 'Sweet memories will die'

If ya give this man a ride

Sweet memory will die

Killer on the road

-If what I read about in The New York Times this past Sunday isn't a clear use of military propaganda then I don't know what is. In my opinion there has obviously already been a violation of the law!-

While I am anything but an expert, one can only reasonably view this kind of intentional and concerted propaganda activity as a form of warfare perpetrated against a perceived domestic foe, the public.

Is that legal? It's certainly immoral.

-I'm not familiar with that source. I'm sure there are credible and reputable sources in Canada.

I'll take the FAS as a credible source on the matter.-

Here is some more coverage of the story:

"

WSWS : News & Analysis : Middle East : Iraq

TV documentary: US lied about Gulf War missile “hits”

By Henry Michaels

7 February 2003

On Wednesday evening, the same day that US Secretary of State Colin Powell addressed the UN Security Council, a Canadian television program provided a timely reminder of the lengths to which the US government, assisted by a servile media, went to deceive American and world public opinion during the 1991 Gulf War.

In a report entitled “The Best Defence,” the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s documentary program, The Fifth Estate traced one set of lies told by the previous Bush administration and the Pentagon during the 1991 conflict. It replayed footage of both President George Bush the elder and Desert Storm commander General H. Norman Schwarzkopf declaring that the US military’s Patriot missiles had achieved a 100 percent success rate in destroying Iraqi Scud missiles headed for Saudi Arabia and Israel.

The claims were a crucial part of Washington’s propaganda effort to create the impression of high-technology precision weaponry that would ensure a rapid victory with few US casualties, while causing limited Iraqi civilian deaths. Billions of dollars were at stake for Raytheon, the company that manufactured the Patriots, and, by extension, the entire military industry upon which the US economy depends heavily.

In briefings that were featured by every American TV network and most media outlets around the globe, Schwarzkopf and other Gulf War commanders displayed video footage and aerial photographs boasting not only that every Scud had been intercepted, but that mobile Scud launchers had been blown to pieces with unerring accuracy by guided missiles.

Accompanied by the media corps, the first President Bush traveled to where the Patriot missiles were manufactured, the Raytheon plant in Lexington, Massachusetts, to publicly congratulate the assembled employees. “It is thanks to the patriots here that the Patriot has achieved such success,” he stated.

It is now clear from The Fifth Estate program that when he made that boast, Bush knew it to be a lie. Just before his appearance at the Raytheon factory, he received an urgent visit from Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Arens, who warned him that Israel was about to enter the war against Iraq because the Patriot missiles had proven completely ineffective."

This, I think, is pretty germaine to the current discussion and indicates an established pattern by republicans in power to snow the public with orchestrated lies by official-looking, 'trustworthy statesmen' and generals to sell war and death as a way of life.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/feb2003/cbc-f07.shtml

The DESPICABLE MSM CALUMNY, LIES, AND WHOLESALE Bush-ANUS-KISSING

Has US of the Blogosphere JUST LIVID, INCARNADINED, SPITTING VENOM & HISSING!

NOW YOU KNOW WHY I DO NOT WATCH THE EVENING NEWS

NOR LISTEN TO THEIR BIASED PRO-ADMINISTRATION VIEWS

BECAUSE THIS Bush-SHIT-administration is a CRIMINAL, ILLEGAL & LAWLESS ONE, WITH ITS MORALITY COMPLETELY MISSING!!!!!

SO I DO NOW SAY TO YOU OUT THERE, TO ONE AND ALL

STOP WATCHING THE MSM ON THE IDIOT-BOX* ON YOUR WALL!

THESE GODDAMNED PREVARICATING AND OBFUSCATING MSM GALOOTS

ARE THICK AS THIEVES WITH AND IN LOCK GOOSE-STEP CAHOOTS

WITH, and FUNCTION as THIS NAZI-FASCIST, FASCIST-NAZI Reich-wing's THRALL!!!!!

*-T.V.

in a perfect utopian world --

"The Welfare/Warfare State Must be destroyed!

"Virtual Ron Paul Will Win The Sim Election!

"-- Ron Pauliac Tuesday, April 22, 2008 07:36 PM"

-- in which no adjustments and accomodations need be made to compensate for real-world inequalities, for the fact that reality is not perfect, not all of which inequalities can be dismissed "out of hand" as "bad luck"?

Ah, to be white, male, and ignorant of history and reality.

Clue: the human race started out as a totally unregulated "free market". Slowly it learned that for the sake of the future -- the children -- there had to be some degree of stability. So they agreed to cooperate together -- i.e., established gov't, and rule of law -- regulation.

In time, among the regulations they implemented were to counter those few who on one hand refused to "voluntarily" contribute to the community in which they found tehmselves, while on the other taking advantage of the voluntary contributions of the majority.

And what was that regulation? Taxation. It was found, as example, that a coordinated defense against enemies and other dangers was wiser and more efficient than a "freelancing" in which everyone said of everyone else, "Fuck you." Gov't was established to deal with that, and other practical concerns of reality and community. Taxes pay for gov't, which is why the Founders/Framers expressly incorporated taxation in their constitutions and laws.

I.e., the Founders/Framers did not subscribe to the pseudo-philosophy of Ayn Rand.

And then there's the issue, as example, of discrimination -- largely by those same greedy, anti-social individuals noted: take advantage of every opportunity, and fuck everyone else's views on the issue. Ever hear of lynching? That is a reality occurring within imperfect reality, an inequality which needs to be compensated for the sake of the victims. It is not "reverse discrimination" except to those who want the "right" to lynch. Nor is it unfair to not include whites in such prohibitions, because the history is that whites do the lynchings, they are not the victims of it.

Short and sweet: human societies established governments and enacted laws in order to regulate the community and its members because some of those members didn't give a fuck about others, or what they did to others. And human societies did so not to "oppress" but because they learned from the experience of the lack of such that gov'ts are the lesser of two evils.

I understand the appeal of Ron Paul's rhetoric; but I also understand not only reality, and that reality is imperfect, but also that Ron Raul is to the RIGHT of BUSH. And expressly agrees with most of what the John Birch Society believes. The John Birch Society is part of that which is traditionally called "Lunatic Fringe".

Why are they called "Lunatic Fringe"? Because they are lunatic, and on the extreme fringe of the political spectrum.

Since when do we swallow unquestioned what a politician says simply because we LIKE what he says (ignoring both the fact that he may be lying, and the fact that we may be wrong)? Isn't that how we got Bushit?