Letters to the Editor
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"When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
And as for Marines breaking fingers, I thought that in addition to breaking fingers, the Marines were shooting many of the enemy combatants that they encountered.
It seems like RWAs do this a lot... when you're talking about one thing, they start talking about another thing, and then act like it's all the same thing. I think it's something they teach in SERE... keep changing the subject, throw the person off. Call it a form of rhetorical waterboarding.
Among the many failings in fact and logic in that particular post, there's the notable assertion that anyone who happened to be in Abu Ghraib was, by definition, an "enemy combatant," and thus subject to waterboarding, finger-breaking and all the other "fraternity" hijinx that went on at that wacky, wacky place. No chance that, during an insurgency, when the occupying army knows little of the language and culture of the country they're occupying, that someone might get swept up at random?
It's remarkable enough that we have this new category - "enemy combatant" - that exempts us from treating people with any shred of respect for their essential humanity. It's made all the more interesting by including in that category anyone who ends up in the back of the Hummer after a 2am raid.
But, gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet, I guess.
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Heffalump and Anonymoose
Huffamoose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffamoose
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Our friend LWM is a fan of Wikipedia, as I recall:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/372nd_Military_Police_Company_%28United_States%29
I'm not talking about the battle to capture the Abu Ghraib fortress, in which I am confident the U.S. Marines did not merely break fingers, but also killed a large number of Iraqis. In battle. That's why they call it "a battle."
After its capture, the Abu Ghraib prison fortress was again utilized as a prison and interrogation center, which is when Specialist Graner and Private Lynndie England (not Marines) arrived with the rest of the 372nd Military Police Company and their lazy dumass commander, General Janet Karpinski, to get their freak on and take some snaps, shortly before being court-martialed and sentenced to 10 and 3 years, respectively. There were no Marines court-martialed or investigated in the Abu Ghraib freakshow.
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@PDA
Quite true, and detainees were held (detained) and interrogated in places other that Abu Grhaib, so that Marine he called a liar need not even have been there. But the fact remains, there were many units detached to and stationed at Abu Ghraib from many branches of the military.
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@Elephantman
Shut up. Quit while you are not completely buried in your own dung.
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Righteous Interruptus
Why is it that righty trolls so obviously refute their own pathetic arguments by failing to offer a lick of information in their own defense?
Now, if it were me, and not just somebody, but a bunch of people....
1) Questioned my masculinity by comparing me unfavorably to our troops.
2) Called me homophobic for my denunciation of a gay righty, not for his factual errors, but for the fact that he was gay.
3) Utterly refuted all my arguments based on superior knowledge of the law dating back to the Magna Carta.
You know, if that ever happened to me. why, I'd slam back with everything I had. Unless I had nothing, of course.
Heffalump, thanks again.
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Who will undo this mess?
Without impeachment hearings, what is the official route to declaring Bush's policies illegal and preventing an administration down the road from asking Yoo II to sanction similar ideas based on precedence? Will a congressional committee uncover all secret memos and officially reject them? Will they review recent bills and revoke illegal signing statements? Will they repeal the Military Commissions and Patriot acts? I've not heard any plans for that, although I hope that at least Democrats view this as an imperative.
Anyway, I want to know who of the anti-impeachment crowd will step forward and guarantee us a Democratic win this year. They seem so sure that the reign of ultra-conservatives is about to end that they think waiting for November is the safest plan. But Republicans aren't going to just leave without a fight and the Dems' comfy strategy may back-fire. Who's going to fix this mess if McCain wins? Our anti-impeachment heroes?
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Seriously, Heffalump
If you are not the stupidest person to ever comment on this blog, you are in the top two.
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You didn't hear me call any Marine a liar. Now, as for L.W.M. ...
Quite true, and detainees were held (detained) and interrogated in places other that Abu Grhaib, so that Marine he called a liar need not even have been there. But the fact remains, there were many units detached to and stationed at Abu Ghraib from many branches of the military.
-- L.W.M.
I didn't call that Marine a liar. I said (quite correctly) that Marines were not among the units charged with improprieties at Abu Ghraib, which the article, through some very bad writing, appeared to conflate into one big mass atrocity. The perpetrators of the Abu Ghraib photographic atrocity have been court-martialed. Essentially, I defended that Marine from more than any of you did.
Lots of liberals like to mock the slack-jawed yokels who think that Saddam Hussein's Iraq orchestrated the 9/11 attacks.
Personally, I like to mock the liberal ideologues who now think that John Yoo orchestrated the activities for which Spc. Graner and Pfc. England were court-martialed. Even Graner and England never claimed to be "interrogating" anybody. They certainly never read any memos or instructions from John Yoo, no matter how active Glenn Greenwald's imagination might be.
Last I checked, John Yoo never wrote any memos instructing Army reservists on what to do when they are just messin' around. Oh, and I don't think Professor Yoo is the father of Lynndie England's bastard son, either.
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I'd ask Glenn to ban you based on stupidity but I know he won't do it.
After its capture, the Abu Ghraib prison fortress was again utilized as a prison and interrogation center, which is when Specialist Graner and Private Lynndie England (not Marines) arrived with the rest of the 372nd Military Police Company and their lazy dumass commander, General Janet Karpinski, to get their freak on and take some snaps
Your mere presence causes the mean IQ to drop sharply. The upside is, you make everyone here look like geniuses by comparison.
Even before England was formally charged, she was transferred to the U.S. military installation at Fort Bragg in Fayetteville, North Carolina on May 5, 2004, because of her pregnancy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynndie_England
Please go away, for your own sake, and hang your head in your trunk with your junk, in shame.