Letters to the Editor
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Digg
http://digg.com/politics/Michael_Mukasey_s_tearful_lies
I didn't submit it, but I'll hype it.
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Unlimber your imaginer and let fly!
so what did anyone expect?
You'd have to ask Digby about that.
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Mmmm...crow
During the Mukasey confirmation fight, you probably saw comments on various blogs from the occasional lawyer here in NY who had practiced before Mukasey and defended him as conservative, but fair and independent. I admit to having said this a few times. But boy, did I underestimate the ability of Bush to get people to completely destroy their own reputations and credibility for his sake. It's astonishing.
Anyway, crow isn't so bad with a little barbeque sauce.
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Mike Sulzer
What makes you think this is true? (Given that his speech contains other lies.)
-- Mike Sulzer
Glenn did qualify it:
If what Muskasey said this week is true -- and that's a big "if" -- his revelation ...
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This should be the news
These blatant lies by Mukasey should be the headline news for a week. Of course they won't be. Obama will fart the wrong way, and the Clinton camp will go ballistic over it. So that will dominate the news coverage for a few days.
The poster that said we need a new 9/11 investigation, I agree whole-heartedly. The 9/11 commission was compromised from the very beginning. Phillip Zelikow, close personal friend of Condi Rice, was the executive director of it. When you have an investigation like this you need people free from conflicts of interests. People not associated with those that are being investigated. As many staffers from the commission have noted, Zelikow blocked the publishing of materials that made Condi look bad. That Bush and Cheney were allowed to "testify" together and without being placed under oath was a joke.
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boo hoo (crocodile tears)
Mukasey's been studying Hillary, I think. Is this a new political trend?
Though the attack on 9/11 was likely not planned by the Bush/Cheney team, they had enough information to know it was going to happen and either by laziness or duplicity, or both, they let it occur. How else to explain the "oh shit" look on Bush's face when he was told about the attack.
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Why?
Why are we letting these people make decisions for us? Why don't we realize that the only reason they have power is because we give it to them? It's time to take it back!
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This is one of those "required reading" posts
I forwarded it to my "political" distribution list via email, "Buzzed [it] Up" via the linky on the post, and tried like hell to "Digg" it, unsucessfully, until I read scientician's post.
Man, that Digg functionality is unwieldy. I don't know how J K's conscience does it...
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OT Today ,...
but appropos for yesterday :http://driftglass.blogspot.com/
"Iraqalypse Now" lol!
JulieAnna, Pinky, et al , you're buying in that there actually was a safehouse and a call. Doubt it . If you go with the 9/11 - inside job theory, you'd have to assume OBL was in on it (the videos, the stock sales, etc) A bit of a stretch . Simple explanations,in anything, that are based on incompetence,laziness, and foolishness/stupidity are a lot more likely . Our current Politburo have shown themselves , numerous times, to be too clueless, delusional, and incompetent to pull off something as elaborate and delicately structured as you propose.
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Mooser
So digby shot you down in flames and you drag your shit over here? Let it go.
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If there was any complicity
I'm convinced that if they had any knowledge of or involvement in 9-11, Bush wasn't in on it. That would explain why they shuttled him all over that day, out of the public eye that day - they had to give him the script and make sure he would come out on message. They might even have done it in a way that he thought he was the author of it. He always struck me as the kid sitting on his dad's (Cheney's) lap, holding the wheel and thinking he was the one really driving.
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investigating the 9-11 conspirators
I have yet to find anyone able- or even willing- to demonstrate how additional surveillance powers and abrogations of civil liberties would have managed to uncover the network associated with the 9-11 hijackings- rather than simple diligent investigation work, improved inter-agency communication, and a modernized techlogical infrastructure (Correct me if I'm wrong on the details, but I seem to recall from reading former FBI director Larry Freeh's book that as of the year 2001, FBI office computers didn't even have connection to the Internet! )
Compare the effort spent by Federal law enforcement agencies on surveilling and investigating pre-9/11 Al Qaeda activites in the US, vs. the energy expended on activites like "Operation Green Merchant", which targeted stores selling hydroponic gear and lighting set-ups popular with marijuana growers who had been forced indoors by police actions:
"...By July, 1992, the DEA was involved in Operation Green Merchant, a campaign to eradicate indoor marijuana cultivation across the USA. Their targets were hydroponics stores and their customers all over the country. They would copy down the license plate numbers of customers, follow and spy on them, steal their garbage, and subpoena utility bills to check electrical usage, among other tactics in their effort to catch and arrest people..." http://www.hr95.org/Tuckers.html
vs.
"...we did nothing to modernize our information systems. So that they were not interconnected and they did not have access to things that private companies have. For example, there are a lot of companies that sell mailing lists and do mass mailings for a living that had all these terrorists in their files before September the 11th.
One of them is headquartered in Arkansas, where I used to live, and I went up there and found Muhammad Atta in the computers of the company, with 12 addresses. Now if we had that information, the same information that’s available on you and me, and you say, “Somebody’s been here less than year. If they’ve got 12 addresses, they’re either really rich or they’re up to no good.”
Another man had 30 credit cards and $250,000 in debt, another one of the al-Qaeda killers. The business community of America helped to finance his murderous behavior. He had 30 credit cards and a quarter of a million dollars in debt, was on a consolidated payout schedule of $9,800 a month. Now, we ought to be able to do a check on that. If a person has more than 5 credit cards and more than $20,000 or $30,000 in debt, after being here only 6 months, they’re either real wealthy or up to no good. It ought to be easy to figure out which..." http://tinyurl.com/2dy6oh
I'd say there was something going wrong, there. http://tinyurl.com/2bvjo (click my screen name signature for link)
But there's no need for tossing the Bill of Rights into the shredder in order to fix it. http://tinyurl.com/36mtr4