Letters to the Editor
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LWM
Just because Bush's claim that American troops in Iraq today are defending our rights and liberties at home is false and merely propaganda does not mean they have never been used to defend our liberties here since 1812.
Could you provide an example of such defense of our liberties?
That would end the argument far more rapidly than any amount of rhetoric.
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Well. after all,
it's the Bush administration, whose motto is, "We make shit up!"
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bucky1
However, look at it this way; we need to vote out the crooks and liars in office because they are entrenched and know how to work the system. Vote in the Dems as they will need to relearn the system. Or, look at it as an oil flush in an engine --- it will not fix everything, but it will not hurt.
Sometimes, when an engine is really on its last legs, changing the oil will hasten its demise. Seriously, I've seen this happen more than once.
All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field. ~Albert Einstein
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@Sysprog
Mukasey: EVERY crime is terrorism-related
What I find interesting about this is how close he is coming to suggesting that all crime is political, or has a political dimension. It echoes the days when you could be hung for poaching a deer from the Monarch's forest or later in English law when it was a capital crime to steal regardless of the amount.
It is the origin of the phrase, "Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb."
Are we to have debtor's prisons again anytime soon?
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@LWM
I don't have time to respond to your entire comment now except for this:
(1) I didn't accuse you of fetishism. I was actually following up on a comment of Mooser's, which he has now almost retracted. (!)
(2) I specifically asked about fighting for our rights. That rules out the actions of the National Guard, though I did (and do) acknowledge the point. I never meant to suggest the Guard doesn't follow orders (another discussion going on at the time).
(3) Regarding my last comment, I realize that acting properly as the world's policeman is no less problematic than, say, achieving world peace without the use of arms. So, I do repudiate Bush's imperialistic stance specifically, but also all American imperialism. Still, some of our adventures have been understandable---just not in defense of American citizens' rights, and not worthy of fetishism.
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Resident, Schmesident
A very "original," yet typically snide and insulting commenter is offended by the idea of Americans who don't happen to live in Pennsylvania attempting to influence voters in that state.
As a person who lives in Oregon, I have witnessed multiple, lavishly financed, deceptive campaigns, usually test rollouts, for any number of right wing causes; property rights, anti-gay attacks, self-serve gas, and on and on.
Legions of paid signature gatherers flood the state, a deceptive ballot title is chosen, and a massive and deceptive TV campaign ensues.
Invariably, moneyed interests are the drivers, and ordinary citizens are the losers. Fortunately, even with the odds so stacked, it only works about half the time, maybe less.
As Karl Rove knows, all politics is national, to some degree, and in this case even the justice system is involved.
To get such a case of the vapors over a few bloggers running some ads in another state is false, unconvincing, and transparently feigned.
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I already did.
Don't distract the thread any more. It's bad enough I have to go through this with Baldie and I aplogize for that. If you were a black in the south in the 60's you wouldn't have to ask this question. It took the national guard to get you in the front door of the school. White people don't get it. Rev. Wright gets it. That's why they are going after him.
Could you provide an example of such defense of our liberties?
That would end the argument far more rapidly than any amount of rhetoric.
-- Aycharaych
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LWM
What I find interesting about this is how close he is coming to suggesting that all crime is political, or has a political dimension.
All "vice" or "victimless" crimes are crimes against the state since no one's rights have been violated in the commission of the crime.
Are we to have debtor's prisons again anytime soon?
The recent enacted bankruptcy bill is a large step in that direction.
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LWM
It took the national guard to get you in the front door of the school. White people don't get it. Rev. Wright gets it. That's why they are going after him.
That could just as easily have been done by Federal Marshals or the FBI. The National Guard was used only because it was convenient to do so, not due to dire necessity.
You know what the real question is: Since the war of 1812 when have America's armed forces protected our liberties from external aggression that had a realistic prospect of overthrowing or invading our nation?
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One more point on the National Guard and our liberties..
Four dead in Ohio..
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Poor Albert. E.
out of context rhetoric. boomers on the t.v. BOOM. a Tom Brokow book. out/over.
with billions of more raised money, spent on research dollars by the "brilliant" ....
oh, we can isolate a bad pair of frayed jean pants, keep children from becoming a rogue....
help 'kids' (not baby goats) to turn out bathroom lights, flush, brush, and wash hands...
and remember to send e-mails, and common sense memos to 'our' peer colleagues...
and kindly ask adults to pick up dirty clothes, and blow their nose, and avoid neo-con-fights....
the siblings who work for peace can be given a Noble Prize, and order wars and squabbles to cease... forever.... a end to acid reflex, runny nose, seeing bad semen seed. Yuck TV ads? gads.
The Physiology. The Peace. A end to mean spirits dispositions. A end to outright lies, and those cold angry glances, facial arrogance, and paid trolls.... no more snoops.
and look for a few perfect morel mushrooms...o, good nutritious warm soup.