Letters to the Editor
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It appears it has Justin in a lather
He's always in a lather. Foaming at the mouth is what he does best.
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PW is probably a lawyer or has some legal background
But there was a precipitous withdrawal by the Brits
He used a phrase yesterday: "admission against interest"
Probably corporate or tax law. But there was no "precipitous withdrawal". There were never enough troops committed in the first place and all the other mistakes from day one, like De-Baathification and disbanding the Iraqi army. Point being, he's just foaming at the mouth like Justin.
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Ahmed, Fred and AEI
http://kris.typepad.com/blog/2005/11/chalabi_in_dc.html
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2005/11/10/chalabi_and_aei_the_sequel.php
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=35322
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HL22Ak01.html
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hey proxy -
- why don't you leave that "wellguy" alone - He knows zip
about "Heavy Metal" - We are so excited. We never dreamt we would find a "headbanger" on this blog. Don't you love "Judas Priest" they are so cool?
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P.W. What is your dis-ease? Proximately Warning.
I'm not pretending to be a poet.
Are you a Lawyer who knows Jamal?
Do you and pals pretend to love 'Dunking Donuts? Just love gluten.
How would You like it if I accused you of being diagnosed ~ A Celiac Patient?
The Celiac Disease is fatal. There is a chronic failure to digest foods with gluten.
Once you Fail to assimilate.... a triggered..... warning! Hypertension! Small intestines collapse.
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P.S. I don't claim anything. I enjoy the participation. The pro-war delusional are pathetic.
No. I'm in perfect health ~ except for a festering war wound. You'd have to experience it.
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All types of military experience
I agree. But if you crtiicise someone for holding an opinion, citing their lack of military experience as an aggravating factor, then criticise someone else for holding that same opinion, suggesting the military experience they do possess is either irrelevant or makes their holding of the opinion MORE egregious, then you have forfeited any seriousness your argument might have because it is fundamentally inconsistent. Military experience is necessary when the 'war lovers' do not possess it, and irrelevant or aggravating when they do.
-- Proximity Warning
You don't put an Air Force general (The Israelis did with the last incursion into Lebanon and it cost them a strategic defeat at the hands of Hezbollah) or Navy admiral in charge of a theater of war that is primarily a ground operation. Fallon was picked for CENTCOM because Washington had Iran in the crosshairs. That would of necessity be a naval operation.
This is further complicated the farther up the line you go. You don't become a general by bucking the system. Col. David Hackworth coined the term "perfumed princes". Fallon finally bucked the system but he apparently decided he'd had enough of this bullshit. So the type of military experience, not the rank or length of service, is a determining factor.
Amateurs talk tactics, dilettantes talk strategy; professionals talk logistics.
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why are you not answering -
proxy? You don't like Judas Priest?
Thats cool -
Whats about "thrash metall" it's not in the mainstream yet but we could work on it - together!
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The best North Vietnamese General and Strategist, Tactician and Logistician
Was a school teacher and journalist before the war.
Giáp was educated at the University of Hanoi where he gained a bachelor's degree in political economy and a law degree. After graduation, he taught history for one year at the Thang Long School in Hanoi. During most of 1930s, Giáp remained a schoolteacher and journalist, writing articles for Tien Dang while actively participating in various revolutionary movements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vo_Nguyen_Giap
He was no chickenhawk. There are people in uniform here who are chickenhawks. PW is not eevn in uniform. His Star Wars Underoos don't count.
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PW may have
G.I. Joe Underoos.
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piece of cake.
You can't beat that store bought 'Entenmann'' crumb cake.
Who don't envy the one who has greasy fingers and eats crumb cake?
I bet some people are still in their Pooh Pajamas and Merry Little Lamb slippers.
There is a silly cartoon with various cake characters: I love Strawberry Shortcake.
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How much clearer does this have to be, Proximity Warning?
"Military service/experience affords them no extra respect..."
So far from being an advantage, you seem to be saying it's actually MORE egregious if someone with miltiary service supports the war because they should know better? Again then, you only prove what empty posturing the 'chickenhawks' bullshit is.
The point exactly. And yes, the 'chickenhawks' are nothing but empty posturing. Sadly, they're the ones in charge of this ongoing fiasco.
"It will be a cakewalk."...
Uttered by people both with and without military experience and so immaterial to this argument.
My argument IS NOT limited to just those who have worn the uniform. Keep in mind who the original post was written about.
If anything, the fact that Senator McCain hasn't changed his mind about Iraq after all this time, never mind disowned cheerleaders like Kagan, is even more tragic than the fact these men are still afforded air time.
"Re-read the original paragraph. The judgment rests on what they choose to support and advocate, not their service records."
So why are their service records bought up?
Some people here have told me only people without military experience could advocate such action (demonstrably not true).
We agree on this point.
You seem to be suggesting it's worse if people with military experience do advocate such action because they know how bad it will be and advocate it anyway.
EXACTLY. Simple common sense and decency should make that a no-brainer.
"All are worthy of respect, but none are considered beyond criticism."
I agree. But if you crtiicise someone for holding an opinion, citing their lack of military experience as an aggravating factor, then criticise someone else for holding that same opinion, suggesting the military experience they do possess is either irrelevant or makes their holding of the opinion MORE egregious, then you have forfeited any seriousness your argument might have because it is fundamentally inconsistent. Military experience is necessary when the 'war lovers' do not possess it, and irrelevant or aggravating when they do.
And here we disagree. I have not and have never said military service is irrelevant or necessary for 'war lovers'. Please don't conflate my opinions with others.
The short of it this: this disaster in Iraq, which is growing worse by the day, is being supported by those who have no experience or creditability in military operations or the region and by those with a record of military service who should know better than to continue the occupation. In both cases, these supporters have forfeited any moral authority upon which to base their support. 'Military service' isn't relevant at this point because the final result is still more dead Americans and Iraqis and a region coming apart at the seems.
How difficult is that to understand?