Letters to the Editor
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Ooops!
good luck asking Jennings what he thinks now because he's been dead since August 2005 from lung cancer.
I had forgotten. But then again, I have long since quit watching ANY network news stations or programs.
I go for a very rare stint of McNeil News Hour and a scattering of Keith Olbermann, but beyond that, there is NO network "journalism" at all worth watching and NONE that can be trusted.
If only I got Al Jazeera on satellite then I could watch that.
I am left with non-MSM online sources of news now.
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Heh..
Accessible Nightline Video Archive if you are a member of Medianet, maybe?
http://abcmedianet.com/web/showpage/showpage.aspx?program_id=000284&type=lead
Also a video clip request form for Media and Press only.
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Interminable
as in unending. Preview, preview, preview...
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The Rose interview
Yesterday, when I posted it, it seemed to play the whole interview -- all 30 minutes or so. Today, when I just tried to watch it, it cut off after 15 minutes roughly.
Is that happening for other people? Are you able to see the entire segment or just a portion from the embed in today's post?
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16 minutes
was what I got
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@ dcutler
Baghdad Bob was right!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf
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not poto, but potoo.
A bird that imitates a sound of a dead branch cracking.
tempus. I misspell your name two. No shovel up dead.
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GlennGreenwald
15 minutes
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A Chomsky-esque post
Glenn is getting at what Chomsky has long maintained. That is, in a free society such as ours, the ruling elite sought other ways to control people. Unable to control people's actions, they realized they had to control their minds, which is accomplished by the extremely narrow range of discourse in the public square.
Here's Chomsky:
"They [journalists] just have internalized the values [of the ruling elite]. They'll tell you, and they're correct, that nobody is ordering them to do anything. The indoctrination is so deep that educated people think they're being objective. This is a point that Orwell made. Without state coercion, unpopular ideas can be suppressed and are. It's a result of the fact that the press is owned by wealthy men who have every reason not to want certain ideas to be expressed. But the more important reason is a good education. By the time you've gone through Oxford and Cambridge and Harvard and Princeton or even less fancy places, you have instilled into you the understanding there are certain things it just wouldn't do to say. You believe that you're being free and objective, whereas in fact, you're just repeating state propaganda. It's like Orwell said, you just have inculcated into you that there are certain things it wouldn't do to think."
(That's from a December 7, 2005 interview on a podcast, available here: http://media.libsyn.com/media/nooneslistening/n1l_show9_part3.mp3)
In that interview and throughout his heralded career, Chomsky has cited numerous instances to support this view. Yet entirely too few Americans know about Chomsky, the greatest intellectual alive today and a passionate advocate for justice.
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Al-Sahhaf's post-war predictions (Baghdad Bob)
Much of the information given by al-Sahhaf during the war was clearly inaccurate. It has been argued that the same is not true of his predictions about the post-war situation. In 2007, British journalist Marina Hyde contrasted the comments of al-Sahhaf with those made by former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, arguing that the former's view of the likely outcome of the war reflected the 2007 situation more accurately than Blair's descriptions.[8] Likewise, the US government's ever repeated statements of order and of progress against the insurgency in Iraq during the second presidency of GW Bush has been compared to the wishful and fanciful thinking exhibited by Muh
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Likewise, the US government's ever repeated statements of order and of progress against the insurgency in Iraq during the second presidency of GW Bush has been compared to the wishful and fanciful thinking exhibited by Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf's news appearances.
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Video - 15 minutes
Thanks. Yesterday, when I posted it, the whole thing was shown, and some of the best parts are in the second half.
Here's the link - I wonder if someone with high skill levels in such matters could look and see if there's a way to have the whole segment posted -
http://www.charlierose.com/search?q=Sinan+Antoon&searchTopic=-1&searchFromMonth=MM&searchFromDay=DD&searchFromYear=YY&searchToMonth=MM&searchToDay=DD&searchToYear=YY&searchFilter=Sinan+Antoon&searchType=guest
(See the bottom - click "share" to get the embed code)
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ooops
Not to go OT on this but if it weren't for Glenn and some of the folks here adding links to other articles, opinion, etc (and also the missed Tim Grieve, war room 'ain't the same without him) and the foreign news I read or hear- BBC, der Spiegel, Stern and 'other' sources I would go mad.
As for the MSM, I was abroad for a month last summer and the first thing I did upon return to the states was cancel my tv service. The noise pollutes your mind, doesn't give you space to think, let alone accurate information. As for C. Rose's format, it harkens back to the old days of tv and I'd rather watch Tom Snyder than the fake folksy bullshit of Rose any day.
But back on topic- I remember hearing other voices regarding our invasion, or regarding Israel and Hamas, etc and almost all of it came from BBC radio broadcasts. I think they can be tainted but I've heard Robin Lustig grill people in interviews that I can only dream of happening here.
The sources are out there but not here.
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Video - 15 minutes
Just to be clear, is everyone able to see the segment all the way to the end -- including all the excepts I posted -- or does it cut off in the middle?
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Muddying the waters
I saw about 15 min.
Which included all the snippets you excerpted.
Don't have any waying of knowing if that was all the way through to the end.
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video
Glenn,
you can see the length of the video before you even play it at bottom right of window, it says 16:35.
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video
I'm able to see the whole thing.