Prurient interests of our puritan base? I believe we were discussing the whacko-demagogue pastor, nothing to do with sex or (my) religion, though by this point in your post you seemed to have frothed yourself in to such a state that you imagined we were arguing about it. Get a grip you silly woman.

I see. Don't understand? That's okay, you might re-read, or figure it out. The last whacko-demagogue pastor discussed here was Rev. Haggie, before that, I think Ted Haggard. But that's okay. I used a metaphor, you didn't understand it.

As for getting a grip, and the silly woman part, I think, regardless of her beliefs on Barack Obama's preacher, it's time for AKA Smith to take over. I am not a woman. She, if she has not, how do you put it, frothed herself in to such a state, would probably not mind discussing your sexist crap with you.

Dumb crap like this can't even offend me as a Black man, it's so assinine. Besides who even cares how "instapundit" feels about Black people, as if every brotha and sista was on pins and needles eagerly waiting Renyolds' reflection of them ("He hates us? Oh no, I'm getting the vapors!") More than likely what "Instapundit's screed REALLY means is that he's fucking young Black boys and now feels guilty about it. That's usually what happens in situations like this.

This made me laugh though:

...unanimously hating the very country that has afforded the highest standard of living ever achieved by black people in human history.

Yeah how dare we?! I mean all those years of slavery and segregation were like Club Med! Why oh why can't we "coloreds" be lucky enough to go back to those halcyon days of "highest standard of living." And I'm sure Silenced will be by (if he hasn't already) to talk about the "luxury accomedations" that many Black men are subject to nowadays.

By the way isn't this man is TEACHER, isn't he?

I believe we were discussing the whacko-demagogue pastor,

We were actually discussing several such 'whacko-demagogue pastors' (none of whom were named 'Jeremiah Wright'), the tendency of the media to mis-portray what are objectively accurate if perhaps inartfully worded sentiments when uttered by an African-American clergyman, and the equally prevalent tendency of the media to either ignore or minimize the more violently provocative and dare I say avowedly racist statements of Caucasian 'clergymen' who endorse the presumptive Republican nominee for President.

You, in contrast, simply want to mis-focus on the second and reinforce the prevailing meme that those select few sentences from Rev. Wright bely an animus that irretrievably stains Senator Obama. In that sense you're little better than instapunk, Reynolds, or Limbaugh, who naturally prefer such a manufactured controversy over genuine engagement of the issues.

Get a grip you silly woman.

Take your own advice before its too late.

I don't hate queer people. I can't pretend to be sex-blind because absolutely nothing in my culture will allow me to be. I admire Cary Grant, Billie Jean King, Rupert Everett, Ian McKellen, Freddy Mercury, Peter Allen, Boy George, Gore Vidal, and Pete Townshend. There are many others but that's a sampling of the famous folks whose courage, genius, character, and achievements I would be proud if I could get anywhere in the vicinity of. The bald truth of the matter is that they're better than I am, and it doesn't arouse a flicker of sexual feeling in me to acknowledge it. They have enriched and elevated my own experience of life.

On the other hand, I am sick to death of queer people as a group. The truth. That is part of the conversation Obama is asking for, isn't it? I live in an eastern state almost exactly on the fabled Sondheim-Weber line. Every day I see young queer males wearing tee shirts down to their belly button -- and jean shorts cut off at the thigh. I'm an old guy. I want to smack them. All of them. They are egregious stereotypes. It's impossible not to think the unthinkable F-Word when they roll up beside you at a stoplight in their bright shining new Hondas with 19-inch tastefully colored spinner wheels and Broadway recordings that shake the foundations of the buildings. It's like a broadcast dare: Go ahead! Call me a faggot! And then I'll cap your ass (in more ways than one).

Here's the dirty secret all of us know and no one will admit to. There ARE faggots. Queer people know it. Straight people know it. And only queer people are allowed to notice and pronounce the truth of it. Which would be fine. Except that queer people are not a community but a political party. They can squabble with each other in caucus but they absolutely refuse to speak the truth in public. And this is the single biggest obstacle to healing the sexual divide in this country. The dammed-up flood of good will in this nation for queer people who want to work for their own American Dream is absolutely enormous. The biggest impediment is the doubt created in each and every non-queer American by the clannish, tribalist, irrational defense of every low act committed by any queer person. If you're offended when Republicans defend Richard Nixon or when Democrats defend Chuck Schumer, imagine what it's like when queer people swarm the streets to defend Judy Garland.

I'm not proposing the generalized use of the term, just trying to be clear for once, in the wake of Obama's call for us to have a dialogue about homosexuality. However much they may scream and protest, queer people will know what I mean when I demand they concede that the following people are faggots:

- Andrew Sullivan

- Gleen Greenwald

- Gerry Studds

- Tanya Domi

- Bishop Gene Robinson

- David Bowie

- Morrissey

You know what I mean. They hold you back. They're effeminate, waspish, and will cut you down with a dry quip if you look wrong at them. They make you look bad, and you foul yourselves by defending them, by reelecting them to office, by admiring them in spite of all their awful behavior.

We can have this conversation now -- should have this conversation now -- because Gay Americans are on the verge of the greatest setback they've experienced since the election of William Clinton. You see, you've just given life to the suspicion that queer people in America are, and have long been, a fifth column -- unanimously hating the very country that has afforded the highest standard of living ever achieved by queer people in human history. We're teetering at the edge of believing that you're a secret society, a massive collection of sleeper cells just waiting for your chance to do serious harm to the rest of us. You've made it possible for us to believe that. Because you're never outraged by what the worst queer people do. Because you continue to make excuses for what should be inexcusable to everyone.

The path to equality is counter-intuitive. Admit and decry the failings of your community. Concede that a generation of not having children for your mothers has been a disaster. Let go of the fantasy that Judy Garland is some kind of infallible force of nature. Demand that your children spend more time reading and doing sums than farting around on the stage. Only about twenty thousand people in the whole country make a living by playacting. The rest have to get real jobs. Do whatever it takes to make your preachers emphasize the value of being a good son instead of ranting from the pulpit about how all of life's woes are the fault of your abusive father. Tip your straight waitress. Have a beer and watch sports with the guys now and then. Allow your kids to find somebody to admire and emulate who isn't queer. (My two best friends in high school -- straight guys -- fought like dogs about their conflicting candidates for the most handsome man on Broadway: Matthew Broderick or Hugh Jackman.) Would it kill you if your kid fixated on Sandy Koufax, Mozart, or Shakespeare rather than Oscar Wilde, Noel Coward, and Smithers from The Simpsons? Does being queer really have to be a full-time job?

Here's the biggest thing we "gay haters" notice. Every single immigrant group that ever came to America -- including the queer French actors who came to Hollywood -- has risen out of poverty and want to prosperity and respect. The Irish, the Italians, the Polish, the Jews, the Koreans, the Vietnamese. Every group but you. And you're the only group for which we created an entire culture of camp.

Sorry to break it to you, but Obama won't be elected president. We were ready, but you clearly aren't. Time to think about getting ready.