Thanks for the further elucidation of the mechanics of murder.

Gosh, I bet you could win a whole lot of bar-bets with military know-it-alls when you've got the indide scoop like that. I admire you, and wish I had some of that action.

-- Derbig Mooser

Just like RMP, all fine and decent people. I do not think of any of them as "murderers". You sound a bit shrill.

If you are a Vegan (named Mooser?), I apologize. Meat is Murder.

"The problem with this? Neither of those individuals are actual candidates for anything anymore"

That they are no longer candidates is irrelevant (and not necessarily true - Romney is still a potential vice pick). They were and were forced to jump through the same hoops as Democrats.

"nor do I recall either of those upstanding gentlemen actually disavowing, repudiating, or otherwise rejecting those elements."

I don't recall what Ron Paul said to the David Duke challenge, but Romney certainly paid some price in terms of the questions he got from media for refusing to repudiate the whackier aspects of Mormonism and its racist past came up repeatedly.

"Obama did."

That's rather debatable -hence it's still news.

And why?

I don't recall what Ron Paul said to the David Duke challenge, but Romney certainly paid some price in terms of the questions he got from media for refusing to repudiate the whackier aspects of Mormonism and its racist past came up repeatedly.

The central point exactly.

"Obama did."

That's rather debatable -hence it's still news.

Its only 'debatable' if you didn't listen to his speech. Otherwise its a done deal.

Again, Obama did what neither Ron, Mitt or John have had the integrity to do.

Accept it and move on to your next hatchet attack.

I agree with the comment about "threatened tribalism", but I quibble with the "new n-word" designation regarding Muslims. "White" fear and hatred of Muslims goes back a LONG WAY. During many periods it is sublimated and understated, but it is always there. I was in 10th grade during the first Gulf War, and I recall vividly how the runup to that war brought out a visceral latent anti-Muslim sentiment in this country. Many people were swept up in the overwhelming jingoism of that particular war and didn't realize how nasty opinion of Muslims was revealed to be. But I noticed it because:

a) I was against the war altogether, which was a VERY unpopular position and exposed me to the ferocity that grips Americans when they get jingoistic. And

b) because my high school had a significant Muslim population, and I witnessed just how deeply Americans were taking this war as some sort of personal conflict with Muslims themselves.

And let's not forget that racism toward blacks is in fact directly aligned with animosity toward Islam. I could go back into history and talk about the Moors and Spain, but more recently and specifically, don't forget that one of the primary symbols of scary black "terrorism" is Malcolm X: a Muslim! (which is partly why the "Obama is a Muslim" meme works so well with these folks; black AND a Muslim?! It's the perfect nexus!)

Of course, the reason I'm getting answers that confuse me is because I'm asking the wrong question. So let me ask those of you who have an insight into the minds of our valorous fighting and commanding men and women the real question:

Will they waterboard for Obama? Will they break down doors and detain and torture hundreds of random Iraquis for Obama? Will they be as quick to shoot at checkpoints if Obama is elected.

Or does the military consider itself so above questioning that not even a change from Bush to an Obama administration will cause them even a quiver of apprehension?

And if it does, won't it make their jobs impossible? Imagine trying to come up with a reasonable legal defense of some type for every civilian killing? And, as I said, where does that leave the guys handling the detainees, and the interrogators?

What kind of oil deal do the companies think Obama will make? Why, he may even let them KEEP THE STUFF!!! Can you imagine?

What's your take on that? I don't think the War on Iraq will go on for a day after Obama is elected. All of a sudden every objection to leaving Iraq will disappear!

You say: "It's the lying and hypocrisy."

Yes, it is. It's also the over-intellectualized left pronouncing from pulpits equipped with figurative machine guns, most of them trained toward anyone who dares to doubt the righteousness of these self-ordained preachers, or question the extent of their real-world experience.

It's quite alright to demonize Hillary Clinton and every Republican who ever walked the earth. However, it's not alright to question, even in the mildest terms, the integrity, actions or words of any black soul who ever walked the earth.

Cardboard cut-outs, anyone?

"Republicans are racist. I have yet to meet a Republican that disproves my theory."

I think calling it a theory is a little bit of stretch. 'Smear' is more like it.

And to meet some Republicans who disprove you just might have to meet some Republicans.

Racism in America has ended. It’s finished. Kaput. Over.

Heck, everyone knows that. Dinesh D’Souza even wrote a book about it called, The End of Racism.

That’s why it’s just impossible to believe that Glenn Greenwald could discover any of it just by following a link from the most prominent conservative blogger and glancing down at the post below it that was filled with a list of “niggers.”

Shame on Greenwald for glancing downward -- it’s an outrage that he did so. It’s just not consistent with the right-wing narrative that “racism had ended” in America. It doesn’t look good that the first rock you turn over in Greater Wingnuttia has “nigger” all through the post. Damn that Greenwald, these rocks aren’t meant to be turned over.

“Americans,” wrote Jonah Goldberg in 2000, “are dealing with racial tensions in an intelligent manner, which is to say ignoring them.”

Now that’s the way things are supposed to be. We ignore racism, don’t talk about it, pretend it doesn’t exist, and write books proclaiming it has “ended” so we can feel good about ourselves. That’s how you solve the problem of racism – ignore it!

There wasn’t any problem about race until a professional “race baiter” named B. Hussein Obama started giving inflammatory speeches about it.

And now mindless Obamabots like Greenwald seem to turn up racism everywhere.

It’s an outrage.

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