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Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:00 AM

One of Instapundit's favorite blogs speaks on race

"I am sick to death of black people as a group ... We're teetering at the edge of believing that you're a secret society, a massive collection of sleeper cells just waiting for your chance to do serious harm to the rest of us."

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Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:39 PM

@Paul Dirks

You see what I mean? How the hell did you ever hold yourself equal to interpreting blank's social theory? What are you, some kind of nattering nabob of negativity, huh? Your explanation did not even come close to the depth and subtlety of Mr. blank's gloss of the subject. Say, fella, you don't need to be "taken down a peg or two", do ya?

Instruct us further, blank! Pay no attention to Dirk, I'm all nose, I mean ears, ears damnit.

I, too, would like to avoid "hate speech". Can I do that by referring to circumcision as being "taken down a peg or two"?

Delicacy in such matters is always appreciated, and your the guy to teach us. I am a "blank" slate, write on!

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:41 PM

@orbitboy

I think most people have a different take on extremism, left or right, than I do.

;-)

Ward Churchill is a troubled man, but not particularly extreme in my view, unless you consider it extreme to oppose the U.S. Government when it knowingly breaks laws, up to and including the sanctioning of murder of oppressed American minorities in their own country for their political views. I didn't like the way Waco was handled but compared to the way the American Indian Movement or the Black Panthers were dealt with, it was kid gloves. And the Branch Davidians were not what I would call an oppressed minority group. A religious cult, perhaps.

It does not surprise me that some native Americans and blacks have little sympathy or affection for many of their white countrymen. I'm surprised any do at all.

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:43 PM

@T Suarez

What in the world are you talking abou?! Who said anything about Obama being a Muslim?

Oh, no one T, baby! No one at all! Don't know where I got that! Sorry.

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:44 PM

@kitt

Fox News and all of your favorite right wing blogs. That is up until it became more convenient to trash Obama for having attended a Christian church for the past 20 years.

So who said anything about Fox News? I made a very specific comment that is now being taken in directions never intended. Stick to what I said -- period.

And no one is trashing Obama for attending a Christian church. They're trashing him (rightly) for attending the same church for 20 years where the pastor preached outright hatred and race-baiting but then wants to disassociate himself from it, saying he didn't know.

It's the lying and hypocrisy.

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:44 PM

@ Derbig Mooser

There are plenty of military in Iraq that are well aware of the “quality” of civilian leadership and who led them into a tragic and unnecessary war. You can see that by the major exodus of military academy graduates and loss of those who have hit the 20-year retirement point. We in the Air Force seldom get into ground combat, so I am far from an expert; however, young Marines only worry about what their buddies and their platoon leaders think. When your life is at stake, your patriotic valor is not your prime motivator. While superior officers should control the amount of racism directed at an entire race or religion so that the troops win the hearts and minds of those who might be on your side, the theory of basic training seems to be hate your enemy so you will be able to kill him.

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:45 PM

I think T. Suarez is a Hillary camper

Or even an undecided at this point. May vote McCain if Obama gets the nod. Be gentle.

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:47 PM

@Mattsky

Obama a pass on his 20 years association with his pastor.

- Mattsky

Surely you meant his inman or his Mullah, right?

So Obama is a Christian, the rumors are true. Oh well, I like him anyway. And 20 years with the same pastor- there's a steady, respectable kind of guy. Bet he's articulate, too!

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:49 PM

I don't see it

It's the lying and hypocrisy.

-- T. Suarez

You are assuming he's in church every Sunday. Think how ridiculous that assumption is.

If you parse his statements carefully, you'll see that there are no lies or hypocrisy. You just don't like the guy. He's not a saint. He's a politician, same as Hillary.

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:53 PM

@T. Suarez

From my understanding of Obama's speech, he is condemning some of the minister's comments, but not the minister himself. Thus, I don't understand your charges of hypocrisy and lies.

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely -- just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed ...

As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions -- the good and the bad -- of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community.

Sunday, March 23, 2008 03:53 PM

Here's option 2 for you, Mattsky.

Intstapundit did NOT link to the Obama story. He linked only to the post on Easter thoughts. Your attack on Reynolds is lame.

Reynolds himself is quite lame, so what's your point?

Your great leap of guilt by a disconnected association is laughable considering that you give Obama a pass on his 20 years association with his pastor.

Considering Rev. Wright is significantly less controversial than Hagee and company, with a far shorter list of inflammatory lines and statements?

Here's an easier one for you:

If there is no reason to associate either Reynolds and his poster-links or McCain to those who endorse him, where do you get off hammering Obama about Wright especially in light of how the Senator already quite directly disavowed and refuted Wright's views (something neither Reynolds nor McCain appear inclined to do)?

I realize you likely lack the piles to answer, but please feel free to surprise us.

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