cute Bambi? Poodle groomers? Peach Pie? Paid Opera singers for the mysterious force that

permeates a universe?

Orange fear pumpkins?

Good typist? Plaster Paris? Lazy Federal government employees wasting tax money? How can a person not offend a thin skin? Skin Head? Easter Honey? Chain Smoker? Donald Ducks? Shad up!

okay. yes or no? empty pantry?

And who wears any pink panties?

Went for a walk, as you suggested, and strangely, it still bothers me. Thanks for the advice though.

Foucault (1983) sums up the Ancient Greek concept of parrhesia as such:

"More precisely, parrhesia is a verbal activity in which a speaker expresses his personal relationship to truth, and risks his life because he recognizes truth-telling as a duty to improve or help other people (as well as himself). In parrhesia, the speaker uses his freedom and chooses frankness instead of persuasion, truth instead of falsehood or silence, the risk of death instead of life and security, criticism instead of flattery, and moral duty instead of self-interest and moral apathy."

from omniscient Wiki oracle!

I said that "many" were against the war. Many. That's a lot. Certainly not everyone.

I was trying to make the point that so many were for it that those who were against it did not matter and were not heard. I also was trying to be forceful. I had thought that my last line would clarify my earlier statements.

Sorry for the confusion...

This is a solid piece of opinion journalism on Obama’s church

http://tinyurl.com/yt6q89

I think JOhn Pm brought up a good point that rarely gets much attention. Just what is a justifiable defensive war? I don't mean from a legal perspective, since we don't follow the law anyway, its somewhat of a moot point. From a state craft perspective, however, I think its an interesting question.

And I would like to add:just what is a justifiable defensive war for a country wedded to a globalized economy that is a legacy of imperialism and colonialism? Its easy to say that Iraq wasn't justified; I don't think any war that the US has fought with the POSSIBLE exception of Japan, has ever been justified. But its plain to see that we owe much to the fact that we did wage these wars--these internets for example, and our cool-ass cars, and yes, plastic. Even contact lenses. Just what would we as a people be willing to accept as a fair level of existance. No cheap oil, that's one thing. But no cheap electronics? No fresh fruit and vegetables? No hamburgers or ashpalt? You could run down the list, there's very little we produce in this country these days, and much of our technology would never have emerged without govt. war funding...

okay. Aycharych. Yes, and more...

Defiance in the assertion of "despair"...

Glorious. nobility. Prometheus? Partially.

Some perspectives are not yet complete.

I speak to me. Convinced in advance we all will die?

Yes. And then 'we people' begin to be alive until then.

Man/Women is psychologically guilty. That's Everybody.

A person may try to rob you, enslave you, and even murder.

(this is not cynicism) For a penny too. Tho, never can rob a Soul.

Some people will sell a inner essence for a bean bowl or a billion...

It can get too late. The soul is immortal. We reap. We sow. Nature.

To be obsessed with "mine" and "thine" is an eternal dumb dispute.

It's an individual "coming to know" and the *metanoia* old notion is potent.

No amount of medication will take away Psychic pain of separation and alienation.

There is a old Word that I like: It's a frankness. It's a paradox. No pious doc? No. It's *'Parrhesia'...

Acceptance of what we can be somewhat assured off... okay.... And also hang in and work to change the outward society? Of course. But maybe more insight is essential.... People must change as a individual. We pass away alone... As Jkalos said one day.... impermanence.... Everything goes toward decay, and is widely dispersed. Dissemination. It's a positive notion. Plant verbal good seed. Happy Spring.

out/over.

Walk slow.

No stub toes.

yes or no, eh?

See goodness.

GG gets it partially right--no personal/financial investment--but he elides the more problematic ingrained cultural brainwashing known as "American Exceptionalism." The minute one can accept the premise in their soul that an American life (or America's Way of Life) is worth more than that of someones child born into another culture you will have war. Sadly this can only happen if you brainwash people beginning in youth to believe war is inevitable and never speak truthfully to why wars are prosecuted.

Western cultural superiority run amok. I always believed America was going to be better because of what we experienced during the Civil Rights Movement and Viet Nam but sadly it was not to be. At root the mass of America is a people who cower in fear of the "other," ignorance, apathy, violence, faux superiority, and overconsumption. If this country is to survive it has a very long and difficult road ahead of it. It needs to start with some very serious soul searching about our true place in the world.

http://tinyurl.com/32bxdz

From your first post on this thread:

I remember a time, not so long ago, when everyone in America was for the war.

That seems to me, at least, to be a pretty solid statement that is demonstrably false.

I was NEVER for the war. I wasn't for the invasion of Afghanistan, either. And I've served in the Army. I knew, instinctively, that using the military to deal with Al Qaida was overkill that wouldn't solve the problem, because using howitzers to swat flies is never a good use of power and violates some key military principles.

The Europeans have been dealing with terrorists for decades and have always approached it as a law enforcement issue. Heck, when McVeigh set off the bomb in Oklahoma City, the response was not to call up the National Guard, but to call in the FBI.

But Bush wanted to play with the military toys, albeit from a safe distance, as evidenced by his outright cowardice when offered a chance to fight in his generations' war.

But you started out saying everyone was for the war when it's obivously not true, and then you wonder why your subsequent weak qualifying statements have not shielded you from criticism.

You have a valid point in that for too many Americans (which for the purpose of my argument is more than say 10,000) wanted revenge for 9/11 and didn't care which dirty brownskinned mooslims died to slake the thirst for revenge. Lo and behold, a bunch of these dirty brownskinned mooslims (oh, and christians too, btw, but we won't mention that...they're basically Roman Catholics so barely count as christian)happened to be sitting on some oil that Dick Cheney and his cronies coveted, and planned on doing something about getting their mitts on before 9/11 and immediately, before the echo of the sirens at ground zero had died were looking for some justification for tying Saddam to bin Laden even though they were bitter enemies. But the important thing is they're both eeevil mooslims. Pretty much in the same sense that Hitler was christian, but I digress.

The fact of the matter is the media did nothing but cheerlead and there were MILLIONS of Americans who objected to the war of aggression, were out in the streets, and were marginalized as dirty fucking hippies from the getgo by the the MCM aka Minitru.

So don't come in here and try to push this "I remember a time, not so long ago, when everyone in America was for the war" garbage.

Because it's simply not true and only distracts from those parts of your posts that make perfect sense and would be cheered by everyone here but the usual fascist troll offal.