I said that "many" were against the war. Many. That's a lot. Certainly not everyone.

Medic!

no teach a quack duck to sip from a straw.

Triage?

dnadoc?

A quack!

hums the Mash theme...

I'd chide ya if you were a goose.

If you were a Lab doc, wag a tail.

I posted this:

http://tinyurl.com/2og8tx

(or click my sig)

and dissected the crapes there, after the N.Y. Times posted a similar "look back" a couple days ago. They did the same damn thing; blamed it on others, said they just didn't know, and haven't learned a damn thing. Granted, this included conservative hawks as well as the "liberal" Ken Pollack, but the results are indistinguishable.

When does someone put together a panel of anti-war experts to look back darkly and say "Weeeeee toooooolddd youuuu sooooo..."

Cheers,

thanks for video link.

Wait for it

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DENMARK !!!!!!

I blame America.

Most Germans still believed that right up until the end.

The Gleiwitz incident was a staged attack on 31 August 1939 against the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz, Upper Silesia, Germany (since 1945: Gliwice, Republic of Poland) on the eve of World War II in Europe.

This provocation was one of several actions in Operation Himmler, a Nazi Germany SS project to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany, which would be used to justify the subsequent invasion of Poland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

What we know about WWII today was as murky back then as WMDs in Iraq were a few years ago to us.

Since the military's sole utility is to kill people I take it your assuming that there are people who's ellimination you view as a positive change.

Army Corps of Engineers. Usually they do better than they did in New Orleans. They stopped serious yearly flooding in my area. That was under Clinton. They actually do perform necessary functions that can save lives. You are sounding a little shrill.

The United States Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) is a federal agency and a major Army command made up of some 34,600 civilian and 650 military men and women, making it the world's largest public engineering, design and construction management agency. Although generally associated with dams, canals and flood protection in the United States, USACE is involved in a wide range of public works support to the nation and to Department of Defense throughout the world.

The Corps's mission is to provide military and public works services to the United States by providing vital engineering services and capabilities, as a public service, across the full spectrum of operations--from peace to war--in support of national interests. Their most visible missions include...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Corps_of_Engineers

And a crime, according to the precedents set at Nuremberg. Until these people come to this realization they will continue to believe that, yes, they were kinda sorta wrong this time, because Bush is an idiot and they didn't realize it, or whatever other excuse they can come up with, and that, done right, it is OK to go to war; and so we will do it again.

Plato comes to mind with his concept of reality as "shadows projected on a wall", life but flickering images on a screen: a computer screen, a television screen. Unless you yourself are over there, unless you have family or friends who come back in pieces, the Iraq war is a cleverly staged story made of words and images (one hopes sanitized non-controversial words and images of Iraqis handing flowers to our soldiers) written and filmed by, well, journalists yes, but also by all of us here.

From an ambitious journalist’s perspective war should be seen as one of a number of convenient pegs on which to frame a successful career where the attitudes of publishers, editors and advertisers count far more than bodies piled in a place none of us will ever really visit or see. Reporters and pundits who questioned our little invasion simply failed Success in Journalism 101.

Of course there are broader consequences to treating it thus, but one hopes that’s another set of shadows in another cave projected on yet another set of screens set to entertain us when they arrive. Right?

What we know about WWII today was as murky back then as WMDs in Iraq were a few years ago to us.

Just upthread it was pointed out that extensive work by UN weapons inspectors had found no evidence of WMD's just prior to the illegal invasion. None, nada, zilch. Any murkiness was just from the chaff Cheney was throwing. If there had been credible evidence, other countries would have joined us at significant levels. That they didn't tells you all you need to know about the quality of the intelligence provided to them.

Ignore it.

entering into the most mundane news reports, sports competitions, financial statements ... always reassuring that we're number 1, we are the city on the hill, we are what the rest of the world aspire to ... ad nauseum.

The spectrum of acceptable opinion is remarkably narrow ... and historical references are "wonkish"... (mustn't be wonkish or boring or literal or theoretical) ... Careerism could explain a lot.

Because the War on Terror (global or otherwise) is just like a new Cold War except of course 09/11 changed everything ... and we are nation of laws, but we hate the UN and mistrust even our allies, so we have to use armies and military might to fight terrorists using guerilla tactics. We're intelligent, rational, fair people fighting "evil doers" for the future of mankind.

So much of what people think they know about America is propaganda ... Read "A People's History of the United States." It's always been government by and for the rich industrialists... look at the American legacy of suppression of ideas ... they've been marvelously successful at convincing us that the poor brought it on themselves, much as Saddam brought it on himself and Afghanistan brought it on themselves and the Vietnamese brought it on themselves ... but America was viciously attacked for no reason by madmen.