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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:00 AM

Obama's faith in the reasoning abilities of the American public

His speech underscored both the promise and the risk of his campaign strategy.

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:11 PM

Some day before I die

May we all look for enlightenment; may some of us find it.

-- bucky1

I hope to be a fool so I may act like a wise man.

It's my only option at this point.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:14 PM

Various

EStark: Do Salon readers really think AIDs was introduced into the Black community as part of a government plot?

Well, this Salon reader doesn't believe that AIDs was introduced... etc. However, if you haven't read And The Band Played On by Randy Shilts, I recommend it highly. I feel confident that you'll have a different view of HIV/AIDs and our government when you've finished.

Hume's Ghost: quoting Richard Hofstadter, [I]n a populistic culture like ours, which seems to lack a responsible elite with political and moral autonomy...

We are so f*cked in that regard. Anymore, responsible elite nearly strikes me as an oxymoron.

Ganpat Ram, Are you still reading the Economist? That might make you a relic of some sort. Many (if not most) of us gave up on it quite awhile back ... unless, we were looking for apologists for American Imperialism and George Bush.

Bucky1: I'm almost to the point of offering, if you'll give me a surface delivery address, then I will ship you a bottle of Laphroaig single malt scotch. If a good strong snort of the stuff doesn't make Good Celery! instantly comprehensible, then he might be beyond you after all.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:15 PM

And Bucky

Don't be so melodramatic.

You'll outlive the "evil state" you are always tilting at.

Bucky said he won't be with us much longer than a year. I don't believe that. I'd miss you, bucky. Don't go.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:17 PM

Hey!

Bucky1: I'm almost to the point of offering, if you'll give me a surface delivery address, then I will ship you a bottle of Laphroaig single malt scotch. If a good strong snort of the stuff doesn't make Good Celery! instantly comprehensible, then he might be beyond you after all.

-- bystander

Kick down!

That means share. Don't bogart them goodies!

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:17 PM

L.W.M.

Oh no, another news agency doesn't understand "nuance"

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4480868&page=1

Lol...

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:22 PM

@Odog

Oh no, another news agency doesn't understand "nuance"

You don't say.

That's why most of read selected blogs with a "liberal bias" instead of craigslist for news and trenchant analysis. Why are you here again?

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:24 PM

Don't be so melodramatic.

"Bucky said he won't be with us much longer than a year. I don't believe that. I'd miss you, bucky. Don't go."

If Bucky0 lives past next spring it will be a medical miracle. If Bucky1 lives past 5 it will be beating the odds, but not a miracle.

Neither one of you can read today. Timberman can not tell the difference in volunteer and drafted while you pretend not to know that array notation starts at 0.

b0, b1, b2, b3, ...

Notice my sig is not Bucky0.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:29 PM

@ommoex

You are right..

I apologize for quoting you out of context in an attempt to make it look like you were calling yourself a hypocrite. I was wrong to do so, and it wasn't all that funny.

Here is what I wish I had said.

I think you are a hypocrite for saying:

[ommoex] ”Have you all no sense of humor? The comment was the most absurd thing I could think to write, but obviously it found its home here.”

which I believe lowered the level of discourse, got people talking in circles, and accusing each other of all kinds of loony ideas; followed less than 30 minutes later by:

[ommoex] ”But mischaracterizing my viewpoints and those of others lowers the discourse here and gets people talking in circles, accusing each other of all kinds of loony ideas. The logical outcome of that is that people tune in here and think that we're all quacks.”

You also said:

”I don't really mind your opinion. Say whatever it is you like about me. I wrote some things in jest today; I definitely think that people here mistake serious issues for taking themselves too seriously. I was really surprised that they were taken seriously, especially when compared to the tone I take when I'm approaching an issue I think is important.”

but this isn’t the part I thought was hypocritical.

Better?

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:29 PM

heh

That means share. Don't bogart them goodies! - L.W.M.

In your case it depends on whether or not I can figure out what a major in CJ is.

And, thank G_d you offered a contextual definition of Kick down!. Color me clueless on bogart them goodies.

;-)

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:30 PM

re: Some day before I die

... sooner than you will expect.

"I hope to be a fool so I may act like a wise man."

All mystical paths, but certainly the Sufi, teach that you must begin to know how foolish you really are before the path toward wisdom can be trod.

But then, you insulted the Sufi, the Quakers, and some other group a few threads ago. (shakers perhaps?)

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:31 PM

Whiny

[bucky1]: Some of us get more than pleasantries or wisdom mixed in there; we get nasty little shots.

Wow. Who wouldda thunk it? And from such a gentle soul as Art James, yet. You must be quite the dose of habanero peppers to get the old goat's goat like that, eh? How'dja do it, Bucky? I can't get anything outside of platitudinous encomiums out of him; nothing to chew on at all, really....

Cheers,

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:32 PM

L.W.M.

has become the "arbiter of nuance"...how's this for nuance "Up Your Obumma"...Lol...

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:32 PM

Condatis

Sigh.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:34 PM

LWM...

Touché! ;~)

Shakespeare's fools were not on my mind at that moment, or I'd have chosen differently, since you do like to play the Fool here.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:38 PM

odog

Not very nuanced. Stick to barking.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:41 PM

@bystander

Criminal Justice.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:41 PM

@ bystander

Bucky1: I'm almost to the point of offering, if you'll give me a surface delivery address, then I will ship you a bottle of Laphroaig single malt scotch. If a good strong snort of the stuff doesn't make Good Celery! instantly comprehensible, then he might be beyond you after all.

I'll act like an recurring and unwelcome irritant if it'll get me a bottle of the Auld Uisge Beatha.... ;-)

Cheers,

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:41 PM

not so Whiny

[bucky1]: Some of us get more than pleasantries or wisdom mixed in there; we get nasty little shots.

Wow. Who wouldda thunk it? And from such a gentle soul as Art James, yet. You must be quite the dose of habanero peppers to get the old goat's goat like that, eh? How'dja do it, Bucky? I can't get anything outside of platitudinous encomiums out of him; nothing to chew on at all, really....

Gentle soul? I have seen celery/bebop say the damnedest things about various posters here. Disgusting things. This is his right and I don't mind; but he is no poet in my mind. Read Blake or Rumi and compare for yourself.

Misunderstand if you want; everyone else is today. Celery may be a wonderful man, and since he is anti-war (my main political concern) I wish him a long life and many votes for anti-war candidates, but a saint? Nope.

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