Letters posted here are associated with the following article:

528
Letters
Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:00 AM

Obama's faith in the reasoning abilities of the American public

His speech underscored both the promise and the risk of his campaign strategy.

The letters thread is now closed.

View:
Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:22 PM

Damn!

Strip away all the glitz and glamour and glowing rhetoric and Barck Obama is just a typical politician.

-- Ganpat Ram

I want my Black Messiah and I want it now!

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:23 PM

w00t!

We're bringing copy/paste trolls over from Swampland now.

Sorry, guys...

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:26 PM

The thead is so thick with concern trolls

We're bringing copy/paste trolls over from Swampland now.

Sorry, guys...

-- Paul Daniel Ash

I'm having a panic attack.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:26 PM

L.W.M

I don't really mind your opinion. Say whatever it is you like about me. I wrote some things in jest today; I definitely think that people here mistake serious issues for taking themselves too seriously. I was really surprised that they were taken seriously, especially when compared to the tone I take when I'm approaching an issue I think is important.

But mischaracterizing my viewpoints and those of others lowers the discourse here and gets people talking in circles, accusing each other of all kinds of loony ideas. The logical outcome of that is that people tune in here and think that we're all quacks.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:27 PM

L.W.M., I offer you my ears

Box away. Let 'em say what they will, you're more fun some days than a barrel of monkeys. GC! talks often of how much he enjoys being here. Me too.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:31 PM

understanding LWM

...is not so difficult, if you remember only that he does not suffer fools gladly. Otherwise, he's pretty much fun.

And if you don't want to read a copy&paste post-- even when it is intended to make a point-- just use your scroll button. That's what it's for.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:31 PM

In reposnse to Ganpat Ram

Obama condemned the speech, but not the man. We need leadership like this.

There was nothing anti white about wrights speech. Encouraging your congregation people to stand up for their rights and be proud of of being black and their ancestry is not anti white.

I thought Rev, Whites comments about Hillary were over the top. However he was right about many other things he said. I guess his fire and brim stone may look militant to some whites.

The replaying of Write's speech over an over again is nothing more than a lynching without the WHITE hoods.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:33 PM

That's my job!

But mischaracterizing my viewpoints and those of others lowers the discourse here and gets people talking in circles, accusing each other of all kinds of loony ideas. The logical outcome of that is that people tune in here and think that we're all quacks.

-- omooex

I'm unoriginal perhaps, but I'm the Rude Pundit of UT!

Proudly lowering the level of discourse since a quarter to three!

William, look at this little gem I discovered.

For types of humor, see the useful table below, from H.W. Fowler ["Modern English Usage," 1926].

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=humor

So your academic background was in the lit crit field? Am I close?

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:33 PM

Obama has issues

Obama has issues. People will come around and eventually see Obama as "dangerously black" and that will sink him. Whether it is fair or foul is not the point. He will lose. It's a tough pill to swallow after running a brillant campaign by convincing mostly young people and the political elites that maybe race should not matter in presidential politics. But it does when it becomes threatening and sinister as Preacher Wright has demonstrated for all to see. And believe me, the Repugs will not let us forget. HRC, of course, is thrilled that Obama's "closet" opened up and handed her 5-7% points just when the supers have to make a hard decision.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:33 PM

Anonymust...

"...he does not suffer fools gladly."

Oh, thanks; that's been my problem with him.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:36 PM

Obama and the Tuck

Speech analysis is like instant replay in football. Each phrase analyzed ad nauseum; like looking at a play in high definition slow motion - is the ball going forward or back, up or down? Frame by frame, forward, reverse - sufficient to cause motion sickness.

Lost in the end - in the cynicism - is the emotion of the moment, the context; its very realness. The replay become reality. Intent is no longer felt or seen, but rather surmised by the breathless analysis of partisans and pundits, moved not by the event, but by the physics of the gears in their heads and the 2d slow mo machine.

No wonder we're left with dunces barely able to read teleprompters.

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:40 PM

Thoughts on Trinity church and Obama by Rev. Moss, Wright’s successor

"For Pastor Wright's generation there was an assumption that if you were to speak to a person of African-American descent, they understood the language of the church," Moss said in an interview. "That's not the case anymore. There is a need for this generation to be broad in their language to speak to a young man on the corner that does not know the language of the tradition or a young woman coming out of the Ivy League who doesn't see a need for the tradition."

Obama's campaign has shined the spotlight on Trinity, which in the early 1970s adopted the motto "Unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian," and hired Wright to lead them in heralding an Afro-centric agenda.

Moss likens the transition at Trinity and other black church pulpits to that of Moses teaching Joshua how he led his people out of Egypt so Joshua could shepherd them, in his own way, into the Promised Land.

"We are seeing on the political landscape people who are rising to the forefront who were very small during the civil rights movement or just not born at all," Moss said. "But they don't lead by rejecting. They lead by bringing the past with them and bringing their own personal experiences."

Moss said Obama's condemnation of Wright's remarks was painful to hear but said he hopes Obama's assessment of Wright will serve a greater purpose.

"But I also thought it was very good for him to share with the wider world the issues that an invisible America is facing," Moss said, "and put these issues into the lap of not only this generation but the previous generation and say we have the ability to continue to build this cathedral of an unfinished democracy."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama-wright-churchmar19,0,6499778.story

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:40 PM

Omooex...

says:

[ommoex] ”The comment was the most absurd thing I could think to write, but obviously it found its home here.”

and

[ommoex] ”The logical outcome of that is that people tune in here and think that we're all quacks.”

Well said.

Most Active Letters Threads

369

A key British official reminds us of the forgotten anthrax attack

A vast array of establishment and expert sources do not believe this episode was really resolved.
204

Is Obama's civil liberties record understandable?

Was it unreasonable to expect him to adhere to his commitments regarding the Constitution?
104

How dare you criticize wasteful defense spending!

So you think it's only terrorist-appeasing lefties who are down on Pentagon profligacy? Think again
57

The crazy, irrational beliefs of Muslims

Tom Friedman explains the real problem: stupid Muslims think the U.S. is about war and aggression.
51

Police to talk to Woods

Early morning crash raises questions, and revives tabloid speculation

View all »

Letters Help

Currently in Salon