Timberman...

Oh, so you're a white elderly retiree living in Arizona--how CONVENIENT for your point.

-- omooex

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 08:15 AM

Mr. Timberman, or WT as the regulars like to call him, identified his race, age, employment status and location in this forum many moons ago.

That's assuming you were accusing him of claiming a false identity in order to make a point.

Bill Cosby is also a rapist so this probably fits right in with his general philosphy...

And so obviously, I'm supposed to believe that you're a dog that also happens to be Yellow?

Timberman...

Oh, so you're a white elderly retiree living in Arizona--how CONVENIENT for your point.

-- omooex

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 08:15 AM

This kid is starting to get on my main nerve. He's always ahd a chip the size of a 2x4 on his shoulder. What an ass. He goes in the same drawer with all the other kooks but it's a small drawer and I'll have to take one out to make room for him.

I should say accused "rapist"...not sure if this was settled out of court or not...

Paul Daniel Ash Bill Cosby is also a rapist so this probably fits right in with his general philosphy...

-- odog11

Timberman...

Oh, so you're a white elderly retiree living in Arizona--how CONVENIENT for your point.

-- omooex

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Internet_dog.jpg

Link at sig.

We get it. you dont want him to be your president. Fine, just dont sit here and act like you would critize your own mother for making grammatically incorrect statements. It is the very definition of desperate strawman tactics. People are human. People are contrary. I dont remember the perfection as one of the qualifications for the Presidency.

McCain has said a litany of dumb shit and I still think that below all the right wing pandering he is a moderate.

What you are attempting to do is sell this notion of equating Obama to the scary black man out to rob old ladies purses and kill Whitey. I cant list the ways in wish this notion is rediculous. Only a conservative with an agenda could try and portray Obama as the militant black man waving his fist in black power. I guess we have to be nervous around Tiger Woods now? Come on.

Bill Cosby is also a rapist so this probably fits right in with his general philosphy...

-- odog11

He's a conservative. The fact that he's black is irrelevant, except in context of the instant case with respect to having once espoused similar theories about the origin of AIDS that Wright does.

Arf!

Tiger Woods now

I thought he was Asian?

What's required to offset the Drudge mentality is a hook that people can hang on to and work with. Obama provided that in his speech, and earlier speeches, by appealing to everyone's better angels. As others have noted, not everyone has to be changed. It's enough that a politician like Obama offers a clear alternative, something people can actively engage, to make a difference over time.

I for one would love to see Obama take the same approach in talking about health care (e.g. what's the proper balance between making health care a business and the individual right to live without fear of dying or suffering needlessly because they don't have money?) and economics (e.g. what's the proper balance between the needs of corporations and the rights of individuals to their privacy, among other rights?). We've not had a politician in my lifetime, going back to Nixon, who has been able to raise these issues in ways that foster real meaningful debate.

Obama's speech on race is an excellent start for a discussion about race. Let's hope he tackles other issues in a similar way and helps most of us move forward.

For myself, my loyalties were with Dodd, someone with long experience. But this country really deserves someone like Obama if he can attract real talent in his administration. Sorry to say, for me, Clinton looks like an old pol in comparison. That's a neat trick Obama has pulled off.

Sorry, L.W.M, I had no intention of dengirating white, retirees of Arizona. Sorry if you were offended. There are not three Americas--a white America, a black america, and an old, white America. There's just one America. Old folks are people too!

CHICAGO—According to witnesses, a loud black man approached a crowd of some 4,000 strangers in downtown Chicago Tuesday and made repeated demands for change.

....

"I told him I'd give him some if I saw him later, even though I probably won't," Moser said. "Very nice man, though."

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/black_guy_asks_nation_for_change

half asian and half black. a virtual gangster by birth alone.

Sorry, L.W.M, I had no intention of dengirating white, retirees of Arizona. Sorry if you were offended. There are not three Americas--a white America, a black america, and an old, white America. There's just one America. Old folks are people too!

-- omooex

You may grow up to be one yourself. I don't mean an old person. I mean a human being. I'm not discounting the possibility. It could happen

I'm not going to "humour" you. Just the last few comment posts I read between my reply to you and your reply to me that I am quoting here should have answered your question. For you to ask, "Humour(sp) me, what is the push back to the scenario I described above", tells me that replying to you is a waste of time.

Kitt,

I'm glad that my inadvertent use of the Middle English variant of humor brought you so much joy.

I would have been more impressed if Obama had made this speech six months ago. He waited until he was painted into a corner to make this speech.

He didn't want to make this speech he had to make it. A political calculation.

They will bludgeon him with this Reverend Wright stuff in the general election. In the heat of July this speech will just be a memory. I hope I'm wrong but I see another Ducacus if he wins the nomination.

No need to reply.