Letters to the Editor
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@ DClaw1
Can we compare this, for a moment, to the near media blackout over John Hagee's comments about Catholicism, Jews, homosexuality, and Hurricane Katrina? A man who not only endorsed, but whose endorsement was actively celebrated by, John McCain? All McCain needed to do was to issue a tepid remark passively stating that he doesn't agree with "all" the views of his supporters, and the media breathed a sigh of relief that their favorite object of affection had put everyone's concerns forever to rest.
Apparently, however, Obama has to reject, denounce, condemn, distance himself from, and express unmitigated outrage over his pastor's comments not just once, not just twice, but repeatedly, on every major cable news show, just to dispel these kneejerk assumptions that this BLACK candidate might share the *MILITANT* *BLACK* *RADICALISM* of his (did I mention *BLACK* *SEPARATIST*) pastor.
I left work early today and listened to Sean Hannity on the drive home. Good thing it was a rental car; wouldn't have wanted to risk having to remove copious quantities of barf from my own vehicle. But you nailed it for what the RW Noise Machine is up to....
Cheers,
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Hee, got a wing-nut goat...
Lord, what naive ninnies.
-- shooter242
Shamed the wienie into showing up.
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@Wabanatta_3
Shamed the wienie into showing up.
-- Wabanatta_3
You are a conjuror of demons. You summon them and they appear!
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@ Aycharaych
[quoting Bugliosi]: Now, in the equal protection cases I've seen, the aggrieved party, the one who is being harmed and discriminated against, almost invariably brings the action. But no Florida voter I'm aware of brought any action under the equal protection clause claiming he was disfranchised because of the different standards being employed. What happened here is that Bush leaped in and tried to profit from a hypothetical wrong inflicted on someone else....
I commented extensively on this at the time (it's in Google groups archives). Dubya wasn't a Florida voter, and could hardly have standing to claim his vote had been "diluted". Not to mention, the conservatives on the Supreme Court had previously been unimpressed by 'theoretical' claims of "equal protection" violation (or incidental disparate treatment) and had demanded actual prof of invidious intent to discriminate ... that is, if you happened to be a black plaintiff.
But that's a bit OT, so after saying that, I'll shut up.
Cheers,
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Looky all the spinning...
E-man tries to perform. So many words he needs now. Funny to watch a weasel dance.
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@Elephantman
LEGISLATIVE FRONT - It goes to Conference, right? Where either the House version or the Senate version might prevail.
Check. It is in conference, pal.
LITIGATION FRONT - Many cases are not yet even filed, and are unlikely to go anywhere until appeals, and possible legislative activity, are all done. It is mostly unthinkable that there would be any significant discovery that would take place before the end of this year. That is, if any cases survive dispositive motions.
Check. They have already survived dispositive motions.
As for this somehow putting President Bush in a box, I don't think so. The American public has gotten pretty savvy about the business of litigation. If I were Bush I'd go on national tv and say, "The Democrats are wrecking a good national security program. They have said that we can go ahead and run the program, but that we might get sued for it.
Check. He has already gone on TV, he has already said that. There was no groundswell of the great silent majority against the effete corps of impudent snobs.
Not to be too nosy Elephantman, but do you know what date it is? What year? Which century? Do you know where you are? The events leading up to the current problem?
Suspect you are A&O x 1. We can put you to bed for the night under implied consent.
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Oh no, others get the credit...
You are a conjuror of demons. You summon them and they appear!
-- L.W.M.
I'm just here to laugh.
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thanks glenn
I just got home from a busy day and haven't read one comment but from my heart, thank you for keeping the flashlight on this very crucial topic. Your diligence got me off my ass, got me to be more proactive, got me involved instead of feeling 'what the hell, they don't care, it isn't worth it.'
Got me to enlist and put money towards fighting this and other abuses of the White House and Congress. We may not have won the war to support and defend the Constitution but we've, you've helped us, us who are too busy just trying to scrape through, you've done the work to keep us hopeful.
You are, in my eyes and in my humble opinion, a true patriot.
Don't let them get you down.
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Arne
Not to mention, the conservatives on the Supreme Court had previously been unimpressed by 'theoretical' claims of "equal protection" violation (or incidental disparate treatment) and had demanded actual prof of invidious intent to discriminate ... that is, if you happened to be a black plaintiff.
Bugliosi covers all that in the piece.. It's actually pretty long.
For the record, Vincent Bugliosi prosecuted Charles Manson, so he is hardly a neophyte at the law.
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Warrantless surveillance and the grand hoax
As we discuss the constitutional concerns for which the House Democrats provided a defense, I suggest considering the shrill nature of justifications for these excursions into our privacy and attempts to indemnify the profiteers who execute these violations along with the FBI. It makes me wonder if either we have had a major failure in our intelligence and national security capabilities that has left us wide open to the action of real and perceived enemies. Or could this be part of a grand hoax undertaken in the Republican tradition for the political purposes of reelection and opposition suppression?
Even today, John McCain, cowardly old fool, a hero once, is starting the fear mongering of al-Qaeda at the gates - fears they will disrupt the election. (Instead of having the guts to tax the rich as asked by Ben Stein)
If after all the years of money, blood, surges, hearing; we are in no better than before 911, then why would we be placing unconstitutional power the same party, cabal, as if expecting that it would then not deliver Don Quoxite as a replacement to Alfred E. Neuman and his side kick, Rasputin, men who consider the war romantic? Unless we buy into a hoax.