The same place as liberal outrage over the drug war..

Who is Spitzer?

I'm lurking here.

Was he the spit ball pitcher?

He played soccer at Ohio State?

He is not yet in my Texan Ranger Rolodex.

Does he stay at the Red Rose Motel on Valentine Day?

That's a $45.00 per night place I stay if passing via Pennsylvania.

There I was on Valentine's Day all lonely watching C-span all pre-Valentine.

If I only had a laptop? If I wasn't so backward? Bashful. I may of had a good time? good time?

Fly here at your leisure, GoodCelery! He got his first tooth yesterday. He discovered that cats' tails are funny and that the goats don't bite.

Thanks for the update, Paul. Poor Eliot! All that and nobody even wants to talk about what might have been. Still, I think I might like Patterson better. Who knows.

Anyone wants to read an excellent mini-commentary on this, here's a link to BBC America's Matt Frei's thoughts:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7291101.stm

My response?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh..

She is using emotion rather than her brain, I have zero sympathy for people that refuse to think and then get called on their irrational garbage.

Well, you said to drop by :-)

Very good summation, all the important points.

Bucky, behave yourself!

She called me a liar..

And then ran away.

If you wish to put human beings in filthy cages then it is your moral obligation to be absolutely certain that doing so is the correct choice.

When facts and logic are on your side, prevailing in an argument online is falling off a log easy.

I've done it enough times to be positive of that.

Liberalism is the default centrist position.

This is America, after all.

We need a Social Democratic Party

This article is the only one that seems to recognize the contridictions in this whole American tragedy There was a time when people thought that the scandal sheets at every checkout stand in American was so much garbage, but today, all the press is concerned about is scandal. They didn't arrest the woman involved who was as much involved as the governor. Why? Wasn't her act against the law? Instead, the press interviews her to publish all the sordid details so all the righteous church people who hear about forgiveness but can't pratice it because they prefer to talk about how horrible he was to do all those bad things. Baloney, that is what is wrong with Americians today. Where is the rage from the actions of the government and the president who is destroying this country and its reputation in the world. And where is the press who has an obligation to report it? The press is taking us down the drain.

Make that "filthy cages under the total control of sadists".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited "genuine" sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early. Finally, Zimbardo, alarmed at the increasingly abusive anti-social behavior from his subjects, terminated the entire experiment early.

That took SIX FUCKING DAYS, what happens after decades of real incarceration?

Great idea from mommy IntrovertLady.

I say: Put buckaroo in a 4-wheel boogie carriage?

Aycharychoo too. Give 'um a rubber nipple pacifier.

And stop picking other people ear wax and chewing it.

Crawl under a lame goat and suck a goat utter and go goo gee, sigh.

but it's my understanding, L.W.M., the Ozzies generally refer to Brits who unaccountably find themselves Down Under as pommy bastards.

We, on the other hand, find them ever so charming. They do have an awfully naughty sense of humor though, and not just the Pythons.

Carriage is 3-wheeled here. Allows for bumpy trails. But mostly he's in a pack bopping around as I walk.

Will planet still be here when he's old enough to ruin his career by going to prostitute?

Swallow Don't Spitzer

Swallow don't Spitzer

Lady Justice? used to love her undercover

wish he would have claimed her, now he's missed her

Snatched credibility so fast, the Governor caught a fever blister

Bankers got each other's backs

Wall St. breathes a sigh of relief

they're no longer under attack

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120519411945525721.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news

Sex sells everything so why is it illegal to sell the act?

hypocritical as the history on most web browsers show

golden shower hoes, bending over touching their toes

Gentlemen's clubs overflow as women remove their clothes

while the holy cry "my, my, my. $5000, why?"

I ask the same question;

what does $5000 do that a $25 crack ho can't get down to?

uplift the struggling street walker to a living wage

legalize bedroom gymnastics add testing for STDs

give adults a choice to buy drinks and dinners, trips over seas or negotiate for some hours, a night, sex for a fee

I thought this was the land of the free?

why is this story more important than High Crimes and War Crimes?

the fishy sheets cover our eyes, the lofty pundits beat us into a daze

We've been fooled again by media madness on the front page

as bush and congress sign our civil rights away

You will not acknowledge your own complicity in putting people innocent of any real wrongdoing in filthy cages under the total control of sadists..

When you vote for a politician who supports the drug war, you are implicitly supporting putting innocent people in filthy cages under the total control of sadists.

Do you like the taste of your own excrement?

You should be forced to eat it until you will acknowledge your mortal sin.

You are being a little rough on AlecsMom.

She comes by her opinions honestly and sincerely.

But does she? I post a lot of letters to Salon--OK too many. Memo to self: reduce number of letters written.

You can read my letters, and you will see that I almost always write from the position of first hand experience, saying this is what I saw when I worked at x, or this is what y told me, or this is what my experience of z felt like to me at the time and in my memory.

If I am providing second hand information I usually provide at least one link to a source that I have used. This is usually online, but if it is a reference to a book in my personal library, then I give the name of the book and the page number.

I may be saying this is my source and I have read it, and it makes sense to me, and it seems that the author is authentic, so I believe it, but I still provide an opportunity for other Salon readers to read and form their own conclusions.

For example, in a recent letter here I quoted verbatim the intercepted conversation between Kristin and her controller and offered my interpretation of what was said, based on my experience of such interactions. People are perfectly free to disagree with me or offer alternative interpretations.

What I do not do is claim to be able to perceive an inner meaning to interactions between third parties that is apparent only to me, but not to the participants.

I don't ask questions like "Do you believe Kristin enjoys having sex with strange men?" because this is not an honest question.

Some women enjoy sex with strangers and have told me so. A woman I know in Florida, now in her mid 40's, told me she used to be a teen prostitute before she married one of her johns and that it gave her a great sexual thrill going to a hotel and knocking on a door, not knowing who was behind it, but knowing that she was going to have sex with him.

I do not think she is typical. I do not know if Kristin is like her or not, because I have not talked to Kristin.

I provided a link and a quote to a well known online escort blogger who says that performing oral sex on assignment is not horrible, but it is a bit like having granola for breakfast when you would prefer bacon.

To me this rings true. To me this is honest writing in a way that the letters of A'sM are not.

I know that A'sM did post a link to a research paper and I went there and read it. It was complete drivel and contained nothing that would influence someone like A'sM to post what she posts. The paper simply said that 8 underclass African American women who were former prostitutes had identified a number of things they needed to stay out of prostitution, such as lack of dependence on drugs, absence of abusive boyfriends and pimps, enough money to live on, community and family support, and so on. Intuitively true, but proving nothing about broader issues related to reimbursed sex between consenting adults who were not coerced.

Overall, I do not think that the letters written by A'sM are honestly argued or intellectually honest. Read them for yourself.