Letters to the Editor
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Aych
do you ever sleep?
so, I guess you are saying YES, the state unemployment agency should place women in brothels and expect them to work there, since they place men in jobs that they may not like.
Maybe in a few years your granddaughter who's going to be pretty, according to you, can move to Nevada and support your homeless ass by working the conventions. You'd support that, right?
Personally, I think you just have so much self-pity and anger right now that you've totally lost your moral compass. Man, you are a sad spectacle.
What are you doing to save your house, besides sitting on the computer and spewing angry posts 24/7? If that's all you do it's no wonder you're losing it.
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Aych
you are deliberately misrepresenting me and you know it.
I have said again and again that I support decriminalization but not legalization.
Are you even capable of understanding the difference?
I'm done. You have no answer. So you drag in yet another totally unrelated topic.
I think you would pimp out your granddaughter. In your sorry, self-pitying mind you would justify it.
My God, I think while roofing you didn't take precautions and fell off one too many times.
I'm dead serious. You're having some kind of a breakdown, man.
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Prostitution is not just a transaction between consenting adults
This discussion is certainly generating a lot of heat! I strongly object to the characterization of prostitution as a purely market transaction between two consenting adults. Allowing someone to use your body in often dangerous circumstances is not a choice that many of us ever have to face. By this logic it should be fine for people to sell their kidneys or their wombs to carry other peoples' babies. So far we have drawn a line there, recognizing that only people in truly desperate circumstances would have to engage in this type of market transaction.
Now some of you must think that selling sex is different. It takes a little empathy to see that it is not. I did some research yesterday about the reality of prostitution. An academic article about australian prostitutes found that the average number of men "served" by each prostitute in the study was 836 per year. Please consider for a moment what circumstances would ever make you "choose" to provide oral sex to 836 strangers (many of them unappealing and perhaps less than clean), defenseless and not knowing whether you were putting yourself at risk for violence, the majority a great deal heavier and stronger than you. What is more, you would need to pretend that you liked this activity and hide any feelings of revulsion. I imagine that most people would say that only in a time of very extreme desperation, possibly only if they were addicted to drugs would they consider such a choice. No sane, healthy woman without a history of abuse would make such a choice unless totally desperate. Consider how we are raised to avoid situations in which we put ourselves in this kind of danger. What ordinary woman is going to seek out random unknown men on the street and offer to have sex with them? (For heaven's sake, most of us would not even risk hitch hiking..... a far less risky endeavor). It is an act of desperation or insanity.
You may argue that Eliot Spitzer was not hiring a street prostitute. Call girls have a little more control over their working conditions but it is only by a matter of degree. They are vulnerable to being subject to any and every type of weirdness and violence in the privacy of the hotel room. And "servicing" strangers, even high paying ones, is not a job that any of us would do given a choice. I ask the men reading this, to consider that female sexuality may be different from males. Our object is not to "spread our seed" to as many partners as possible. It is not usually gratifying for women to have endless sexual encounters with strange men. This runs counter to our biology and has to be endured by prostitutes. And overlooking the danger involved runs counter to every instinct of self preservation that women normally have.
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ktwyman...
Oh, but but but....
Prostitution is legal in Australia, as one poster pointed out.
And everything there is WONDERFUL for hookers!
Oh, and he mentioned that they are all much better looking and a lot more fun to be with than "office girls"!
Much better looking, even the street walkers....
So how could have the temerity to suggest that prostitution in Australia is not wonderful....!
I'm disappointed, shattered. Imagine how the men on this thread who have already booked their tickets feel.
Try Amsterdam. See my post below.
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Aych
the next time Achy-breaky posts here, everybody please remember that he supports FORCING women to work in brothels against their will.
He says its no worse than the draft, which violated his personal code of morality, too.
Having to work for a living violated him, too. And he was forced, FORCED to do the worst jobs on the PLANET.
I mean roofing! He did roofing! Oh God, help us, the humanity!
It's only fair that women be forced into prostitution. It's no worse than what was done to him!
Your pity party is OVER, Achy.
Okay, let's suppose you've really worked horrible jobs and been traumatized by witnessing accidents resulting from inadequate safety protections or whatever (although most accidents in these industries involve asshats taking shortcuts and not following the rules). Let's suppose.
So in your mind this means women should be required to be hookers, even drafted for that purpose.
Since when do two wrongs make a right? Since when?
How will horrible things happening to women make your life one bit better? How?
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@ktwyman
You're assuming from your numbers that "all" of the men using the services of a prostitute want only "Deep Throat." At the rate Spitzer's girls were charging, I think that the "real thing" was the more usual transaction.
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Hyprocrite, thy name is Democrat
To those who believe that hiring a prostitute is a victim less crime and a private matter, just remember how only 4 years ago, Spitzer broke a prostitution ring, called prostitution "disgusting", made the accused do the perp walk in front of the press and destroyed their lives. Did anyone in the press call this a "tragedy"? Did Spitzer show any mercy to the people he ground up to make his political career?
To those who think that FISA allowed this wiretapping, just remember that Spitzer himself used wiretaps to gain evidence to arrest people in this prostitution ring.
To everyone else, look at the time line. Spitzer was a john for a prostitution ring that was in direct competition to the one he busted. Could there have been any Quid Pro Quo benefit for him to eliminate competition for Emperors Club VIP?
For everyone's reference, look at the quote from 2004 found below.
"Spitzer proudly announced on April 8, 2004, that authorities had arrested 18 people on promoting prostitution and related charges -- including money laundering and falsifying business records -- in an investigation of escort services in New York.
"This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure," Spitzer said at the time. "It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring, and now its owners and operators will be held accountable."
In the 2004 probe, investigators used wiretaps and other surveillance to build their case, said Vincent Romano, who defended the man accused of running the ring. Prosecutors also charged some of the defendants with enterprise corruption -- a charge carrying heavier penalties than simple prostitution. No charges were brought against the ring's customers, just those accused of working for or running the service."