Letters to the Editor
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And, there's a silver lining!
If the wiretap that got him was illegal (i.e., no warrant), then the same rule of law argument will get Eliot and his penis off the hook. Who knows? It might even be the fault line that breaks open the domestic wiretapping scandal we know is being hidden by our federal Department of Justice.
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Phoenix Woman
As to undocumented workers I know a bit about that too.
I have a family member who works an undocumented worker in his business.. Pays him $8.50/hr cash..
The primary reason for doing this is workman's comp insurance. In the construction trades paying 15% or more of net payroll for WC is fairly standard.. You don't pay WC on undocumented workers so you save considerable money on even if you pay them the same as a legal worker.
The second reason is frankly that most of the documented workers you can get for that price aren't worth the money. I'm as serious as flatulence in a space suit here.. It's nearly as hard to find good help as it is to find a good job.
I've been with my relative trying to get some of his documented help to come to work, he literally beat on the wall of the guy's trailer so hard we could hear stuff falling off the wall on the other side and the dude never came to the door.
Drinking six cases of beer in a weekend will do that to you.
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@Tim W. Brown
So if you campaigned on, say, bringing integrity to the oval office, and then you deliberately conspired to created a context for committing grave breaches of international humanitarian law, you'd have the moral authority to direct a Justice Department that could not possibly compel a former White House Counsel to appear before Congress, to investigate a Democratic governor looking for dirt. Hypocrisy. Right. Check. Not the sex, it's the lies. Check. How many times can you play that record before people begin to recognize the tune?
And how often does the Department of Justice prosecute prostitution, did you say?
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Mixed feelings
This is like the DEA agent smoking dope after busting tons of guys...
As much as I think prostitution, drugs, etc. are not necessarily criminal behavoir, and that the laws should/need to be changed, fact is, they are the law now and I have little sympathy for a "tough on crime" guy going down for the same things he went after other people for.
The thing that troubles me is not wanting to agree with all the hand wringing done by the morality crew, guys like Peter King (R-NY), this morning on CNN.
Aargh. This does not speak well of Spitzer's judgement.
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This is true
It's the hypocrisy, stupid.
Nobody cares about consensual sex. But when you crusade as being squeaky-clean and it turns out you're not, then you should expect a double-barrel load of comeuppance.
-- Tim W. Brown
But there is no comparison to the harm done by the majority of crimes he concentraterd on, securities fraud, etc., amounting to billions of dollars looted from the public and the crime he committed, which harmed no one. He made many wealthy and powerful enemies in that work. Many of them probably clients of the same "modeling agency".
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Oh tinaaaaa...
What do you think would be prostitutes should do in lieu of renting their bodies?
Starve?
You're busy lambasting LWM at the same time you are ignoring me..
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@AnnieW
Great! Little sympathy for a tough on crime guy. Those tough on crime guys should be banned. Boy they have you well programmed.
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Tina S
you want to address and ignore 95% of what everyone is saying--in other words, reality.
-- tina schrier
Exaggerate much, Tina?
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@Aycharaych
That is why I posted "I wish." Personally, I am more inclined to give a pass to a beat cop than to a Governor (barring of course, things like beatings and such...) Bigger job, bigger visibility, bigger responsibility, bigger stakes for the rest of the population.
I wish people with that sort of visibility had better judgment than to put themselves in a position where the voting population needs to judge them one way or another due to all things, a sex scandel. It is unfair to the voting population who did not ask to be placed in that position.
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@L.W.M.
Many of them probably clients of the same "modeling agency".
Yeah, want to bet we might not ever know who client's 1 through 8 are?
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@AnnieW
You can bet that client list was in the hundreds. This is disconcerting if it is ordered chronologically. He was a client for awhile.
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Tina! You have no idea!
L.W.M
and you, my dear, are an apologist for one of the most damaging practices that can be carried out against society's most vulnerable women.
You also select out what you want to address and ignore 95% of what everyone is saying--in other words, reality.
And you are not teasing me. You are calling me a name because you have nothing left to throw at me.
If I am a kook than Andrea Dworkin is also a kook, and she worked as a prositute and she knows of what she speaks.
But go ahead, select your reality to be any way you want. Don't let what us kooky women say deter you.
-- tina schrier
Now we all agree! Dworkin is a kook.
And I'm also a warmonger. And we can hook you up with Bucky.
You will make such a cute couple.
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I agree - in part - w GG
I, too, think prostitution should be legalized. But I think adultry should be illegal. If you're single, have all the sex you want with as many consenting adults as you want, and if you want to pay/charge money for the fun, go right ahead. But if you're married, no more sex with anyone other than your spouse. I think that would make people take marriage much more seriously, before and during the commitment.
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Annie
As much as I think prostitution, drugs, etc. are not necessarily criminal behavoir, and that the laws should/need to be changed, fact is, they are the law now and I have little sympathy for a "tough on crime" guy going down for the same things he went after other people for.
The thing that troubles me is not wanting to agree with all the hand wringing done by the morality crew, guys like Peter King (R-NY), this morning on CNN.
Aargh. This does not speak well of Spitzer's judgement.
It does not speak well of his judgement. I was considering digging into his prosecutorial record to see what kind of prosecution cases he prosecuted as AG. The thing to remember here is he was not going after workers but higher ups who were laundering the money. His main priorities were the securities fraud with Wall Street in his jurisdiction. It is a matter of the crimes you get tough on. He was no Sheriff Arpaio in New Mexico, the guy with the chain gangs and outside jail for the poor. He went after the White Collar criminals.