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Monday, March 10, 2008 12:00 AM

Who cares if Eliot Spitzer hires prostitutes?

What accounts for the intense moral outrage from all corners over this private, consensual act between adults?

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Monday, March 10, 2008 03:46 PM

spitzer

the funny thing here is,that it couldn't knock clinton off the air on the Tucker show

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:48 PM

aside from the facts that

a) It's against the law and

b) he's a state governor who was previously the state attorney general

... I don't much care.

Now, I personally happen to think it shouldn't be against the law. But it is. And my understanding of how these things work -- which is admittedly almost entirely second-hand at best -- is that prostitution operations tend to be associated at least on some level with organized crime and/or corrupted law-enforcement officials. Given that, his involvement -- even if it's only as a customer -- compromises him, at least in appearance if not in fact.

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:49 PM

the outrage is gonna come from the Left

personally I dont care what Mr.Spitzer does in his private time as long as he does a good job running his office..but the problem is that even the left is guilty with all this moralizing..wait for all the feminists to now start ganging up on him for abusing a poor hapless woman and using her body for sex..

But also, we know we cant expect anything good from the Republicans...but if Mr.Spitzer is gonna go on a moral crusade to cleanse America of all its sins, then he should expect the same treatment that metes out to others....

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:51 PM

Huge Disappointment

There is the issue of judgment -- and hubris. Did he really think he wouldn't be caught? He's handed the Republicans his reputation, and far, far more important, he's also screwed up just when the state was on the verge of finally making some real progress toward enlightened government. Even if the Republicans are behind his fall (which would hardly shock me) , I am very angry with Eliot Spitzer.

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:52 PM

Comparable to Siegelman?

Is this just another part of the Department of Justice program to rid the country of those troublesome democratic governors?

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:54 PM

His station in law enforcement makes it important

Spitzer voluntarily took on the job of governor of New York where he personally destroyed the lives of countless people involved in sex work. It would be manifestly unjust if he were spared the punishment that he so consensually inflicted on others. In the very least he absolutely must resign for flagrantly violating the law that he swore to protect.

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:54 PM

Right on...

As always, you are spot on and as you suggested, I only wish people would get as riled up about the crimes of Bush and his cronies as they do about Spitzer's crime - which certainly pales in comparison.

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:54 PM

This is what FISA is for

Listening in to private conversations. Busting guys for hiring prostitutes.

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:57 PM

SLSpencer

He's handed the Republicans his reputation, and far, far more important, he's also screwed up just when the state was on the verge of finally making some real progress toward enlightened government. Even if the Republicans are behind his fall (which would hardly shock me) , I am very angry with Eliot Spitzer.

Were you angry with Bill Clinton for the same reasons?

Monday, March 10, 2008 03:59 PM

jmklein

Spitzer voluntarily took on the job of governor of New York where he personally destroyed the lives of countless people involved in sex work.

What do you mean by this specifically? He prosecuted some owners of escort agencies, which - as I said -- is definitely hypocritcal, outrageously so.

But what do you mean when you say "he personally destroyed the lives of countless people involved in sex work"? Are you referring to that? As far as I know, he never prosecuted any prostitutes or clients.

In the very least he absolutely must resign for flagrantly violating the law that he swore to protect.

Would you say the same about him -- or any other public official -- if it were revealed that he had smoked pot once, or gambled in a poker game, or committed adultery in a state where that is a criminal offense -- all acts just as illegal as prostitution?

Monday, March 10, 2008 04:00 PM

The best response is a very old one

Let me quote, "Let [the one] who is without sin throw the first stone."

Meanwhile, of course this is a case of illegal and inappropriate wire tapping - using the federal justice department to dig up dirt on one's political enemies or at the very least, the rising stars of the opposing party.

But of course, it would need to be the justice department itself or a special prosecutor that would start any investigation of such malfeasance, and it will be a very cold day in what is reputed to be a very warm place before any such investigation begins, at least for the next 10 months or so.

Monday, March 10, 2008 04:00 PM

Favored Brothels?

But Glen, seems those other services he put out of business would have been competitors of Spitzer's favored house of ill-repute, no? Beyond hypocrisy, can't an argument be supported that, by hitting competitors, he was simply paving the way for Emperor's Club to get ahead in the escort market in NYC? On the flip-side, he certainly could have been doing a little first-hand research in order to better fight the good fight against pernicious prostitution in the Empire State?

Monday, March 10, 2008 04:02 PM

Regardless of what one thinks of prostitution

I have always found it very curious that one of the following, but not the other, is illegal:

(a) Two people have sex, one of them gets paid for it;

(b) Two (or more) people have sex, all of them get paid for it, and it is videotaped and sold to third parties as a commodity.

I have yet to hear a convincing argument why this difference makes any actual sense.

Monday, March 10, 2008 04:04 PM

Schtupp-Gate

Anybody got a better idea for a name for this scandal?

Monday, March 10, 2008 04:04 PM

Attention disorder

Which is more deserving of attention, a President who has likely been involved in stealing elections, starting illegal wars based on lies that cost hundreds of thousands of lives and guts the Bill of Rights down to the Bill of Right, or a Governor's sexual escapades? Oh, hands down, give me the sex.

Seriously, how many people die each year from prostitution? How many die from people speeding and running stop signs/red lights in their cars (quick answer: 46000)? Why do we not get excited unless we can talk about someone else's sex lives?

Monday, March 10, 2008 04:06 PM

Glenn, really now.

Oh come on now. If he had an affair, that'd be one thing. He appears to have committed (at least one) Federal crime, however. This wasn't just an example of bad judgment, it was the highest official in the state committing a crime.

Now, it's certainly possible he didn't commit the crime, in which case he shouldn't resign, should plead not guilty, and should fight. The evidence does seem pretty darn compelling, however.

Should this be a crime? In my opinion, no. That doesn't change the fact that it IS a crime. It's private, consensual, and AGAINST THE LAW, something that he clearly believed when he prosecuted others for engaging in prostitution. This is a classic case of "OK for me, but not for them," something you don't accept from the Bush administration, and shouldn't from a Democrat, either.

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