Letters to the Editor

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After weeks of pretending to stand against the president's demands, the House today is circulating a bill to give Bush everything he demanded.
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  • Elephantman has made it official

    The GOP has abandoned truth, justice, and the American way in favor of power.

    Glad it's clear now. No more complaining from elephants is allowed, when we call them craven authoritarians.

    And speaking of literature, I happen to be reading Bend Sinister (Nabokov) at the moment. It's fun to toggle between novel and newspaper on the train in to work in the morning.

  • @Elephantman

    If Glenn Greenwald and his supporters keep fighting the good fight for truthjusticeandtheamericanway...

    ...and my side keeps winning votes, I'm good with that.

    That's exactly the problem. You care more about your "side" (who would sell your kidneys and leave you in a bathtub of ice if the return on investment was as good as they're getting now) than you do the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. You have absolute faith that if your party leader tells you something, it's true.

    You're a grown-up. Use your own brain. The Republicans haven't done a thing they said they would since they took power in 2000, they've blown up the government bigger than Clinton, they've accrued far, far more debt than Clinton, they've intruded on our rights more than Clinton, (and I HATED Clinton!) they've done everything possible to be as ANTI-conservative as can be, and you still love it.

    If you don't see what's seriously, seriously wrong in the Republican party by now, you're as big a sucker as there is. They've done nothing but lie to your face for 8 years, and as long as they say "terror", you eat it up.

    What's wrong with you?

  • This is Exactly What...

    I find distasteful about the postings here. There is a pile on mentality--once a recognized regular has gotten into it with somebody, a lot of other regulars pile on. Its definitley not befitting of the politics most espouse here.

    Those right wingers like Elephantman who post here to get our goats, are better left alone and ignored. He's never said anything that I haven't heard on Hannity and Colmes, and I'd just soon shout at the tv screen than engage in that kind of warped discourse.

  • So you're ragging on people about ragging on people?

    "This is Exactly What...

    I find distasteful about the postings here."

    -- omooex

  • Name Change

    "It will be necessary for us to be a nation of men, and not laws."

    -- Dick Cheney,Vice President of the United States

    Source: reacting to the 9-11 attack as reported on PBS "Frontline"

    Ever since, Democrats have been in grovel-mode, spineless twits who signal retreat with stentorian displays intended to provide cover to the party of the prostrate.

    These gasbags should change their name to the Submissive Invertebrate Party.

  • @various

    In either this or the prior thread, someone commented on the use of email signatures to introduce triggering keywords or phrases, and that people had been doing this since the introduction of Carnivore. In fact, back in the 1970s, people frequently did something like this, introducing the "X-NSA-Fodder:" email header line for the purpose. NSA even back then was referred to as "No Such Agency." Arne may remember this.

    OT on the topic of Amazon's suggestions... several years ago I was purchasing in front of my boss, at work, probably something to do with java or javascript. Once I selected the book for purchase, we were rewarded with a display that interspersed books on C and Java with suggestions of musical scores and such delights as (I make up examples) "S&M Ranch," and "Queer Papi Porn," and "MeatMen #23." He seemed (or feigned) not to notice.

  • @ omooex

    I swore I wouldn't weigh in on this, but what the hell. Equally distasteful, at least to me, are arbiters of taste whose standards are rather transparently self-serving. If you say provocative things, people will be provoked. It goes with the territory.

    I have nothing bad to say about your comments, by and large, but I will observe that you aren't a paragon of the virtues you espouse.

  • It's remarkable, in a way...

    That anybody could be so addled by Limbaugh and O'Rielly, et al"s hogwash that they could proudly declare that, against all evidence, they are "winning votes." Even the dimmest among us can easily see that FISA capitulation is, for its wretched unpopularity, being desperately papered over, while actual Americans are identifying as Democrats in historically unprecedented numbers.

    The debacle Bush has left us, along with its sinister totalitarian overtones, has clearly done nothing but make Republicianism about as popular as the clap in a whorehouse. Even the cavingest Dems see this, and have to cloak their complicity like never before.

    But the true followers still believe; that's their special privilege.

    As liberals, our hearts can only bleed.

  • Being a math nazi

    You say that like it is a bad thing...

    I stand corrected.

  • @omooex

    I'd just soon shout at the tv screen than engage in that kind of warped discourse.

    That's fine, Jaime, but you need to remember that's your choice.

    I think it's OK to lead by example and try and create change in an online community... up to a point. Even with the deftest touch, coming to a public venue and insisting that your own esthetic standards be observed by all is rather problematic.

    It's not "piling on" for me to note that your own touch has been less than deft at times, is it?

  • @ Paul Daniel Ash

    -This is the year I make good on my threats to emigrate.-

    Have you chosen your destination planet yet? You'll want to be sure its not a territorial possession and Exxon hasn't signed it up for drilling rights.

  • @ Cocktailhag

    Bart DePalma, before his exile from UT, opined with all the august authority he could muster that Karl Rove was a strategic and tactical genius, and that we could indulge all our silly liberal fantasies all we wished; when the smoke cleared on November 8th, the Democrats would win a maximum of six additional seats in the House. He was certain of it.

    You may not have been reading UT in Bart's heyday, but if you'd like to get the flavor of his pontifications, check the comments threads at Balkinization.

    As you might imagine, his failed prognostications didn't put even the slightest hitch in his gitalong. Even among right wing trolls, there are few who couldn't pass the Turing test. Bart was/is surely one of them.