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Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:00 AM

The fun and excitement of civilization wars (fought from afar)

Believing that one is waging paramount war against the most evil enemy ever is a garden-variety psychological need, not a political or ideological conviction.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:34 AM

According to Alexa

No one reads Steyn.

Doesn't even register on the graph.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:37 AM

EJ

Thanks for the happy news. Even if the Democrats prevail in the coming general election, we will be decades digging out of the legal, financial/economic, regulatory hole bequeathed by this sorry excuse for an administration.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:38 AM

@9/11 revenge and fear mongering supporters

Let’s use your 9/11 revenge and fear thinking to deal with the murder of five Northern Illinois University students. The five students killed out of a population of approximately 25,000 means a ratio of .0002 of the population dead and 3,000 9/11 victims out of a population of 300 million is a ratio of .000001 of the population dead. That means we have even stronger reasons than used by the Busheviks and neocons to seek revenge on the NIU killer and those behind him. His psychological state had nothing to do with why he killed and even if it did it is not important because we will never sleep soundly again until we gain sufficient revenge and show how powerful we are. And if we make a lot of money for corporations while we are gaining an eye for an eye, so much the better.

That means we have to destroy Champaign-Urbana where the NIU killer was living and hatched his plan and invade the rest of the state. And then even though the killer had never lived in or visited Washington D.C., it was rumored that distant relatives had visited or were possibly living there, and because the district is the home of a despotic leader and the poor people living there are being treated very unfairly and the district might have weapons laboratories even though inspectors couldn’t find them, we have to trust politicized and vague intelligence and invade and destroy the district and the adjacent states of Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

I could go on with my analogy but PLEASE all 9/11 supporters, honor me with your wisdom and tell me how we benefited from fear-mongering a nation, giving a president far too much illegal power and attacking our civil liberties based on one irrational attack. Please answer these questions. How do you continue to buy the illogical logic that your leaders spew out? How do you remain so afraid of people you don’t know on the basis of lies and distortions and refuse to help them better their lives so their ideas about us might change? How can you support more American military deaths when the only way to win is a political solution creating a secular government that will never be allowed to come into existence because the Shi’a will never give up total control? How can you ignore four million people who were driven from their homes and are struggling to just survive from day to day? Why are you so fearful? Are you more afraid of yourself than your “enemies?”

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:39 AM

@ tebmtn

Mmm.... And what if maverick John decides to haul sanctimonious Joe aboard as his running mate?

Goy vey?

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:40 AM

Excuse me?

On your way down, you can find out definitively whether or not God can tell the difference between beseeching and whining.-- William Timberman

Would you care to expand on this? I have no idea what reference you're making. There's no beseeching or whining involved that I see. I think it's pretty funny to see you become a close-minded liberal. I thought there wasn't supposed to be such a thing, but you're setting the standard.
But hey, if that's what dusts your doughnuts, be my guest.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:41 AM

Well, duh!

Shooter... I have no idea what reference you're making.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:43 AM

bystander

I can't despair yet (probably stupid, I know). There's still Al-Haramain v. Bush (Judge Walker has to decide whether or not FISA trumps state secrets privilege).

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:45 AM

On bringing knives to gunfights

I have no idea what reference you're making. -- shooter242

Of course you don't. That's kinda the problem with your sword of righteousness, isn't it? No one can pull the fucker out of the stone, least of all you.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:46 AM

What!? Not Powerline!

It would have seemed incredible a couple of years ago, but a George Polk Award was given this morning to a blogger.

Not just any blogger, of course. Josh Marshall (top, with his son Sam) of Talking Points Memo...

http://www.attytood.com/2008/02/a_landmark_day_for_bloggers_an_1.html

SHooter cries foul: "Whaaaaaa!"

WATB.

Next year it may be Glenn.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:47 AM

WT re Stein

A drama queen. No more, no less. And a disgusting one at that.

-- William Timberman

I would have said a racist f*ckwad, but disgusting drama queen is OK, too.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:48 AM

Jump, Shooter, Jump!

Before The Overton Window moves out of your rubber room altogether!

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:52 AM

@shooter242

Well WT, it seems that you have tied yourself up into a tidy little box. If anything sympathetic to your views, said by a conservative, is automatically a lie... conservatives can NEVER say anything sympathetic to your views. Tsk.

Perhaps we should rename BDS to CDS.... Conservative Derangement Syndrome.

OTOH Since liberals are neither sensitive nor particularly bright, it could take a while for a positive posibility to sink in. Or not.

Mark Steyn is no more "conservative" than Goebbels or any other racist, death-loving authoritarian. He wants federal solutions (usually violent) to every problem he cares about, and blows all other issues off with uneducated appeals to "conservative economics", which he doesn't understand.

Keep telling me how the most expansionary, politically radical, big-spending administration in history is "conservative" in any meaningful sense. Tell me in what way Steyn is "conservative". Keep telling me how you yourself are "conservative".

I'll believe it when I see some evidence.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:54 AM

@shooter242

I think it's pretty funny to see you become a close-minded liberal.

You have a lame sense of humor, my neighbor.

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 08:55 AM

@LWM re Shakers and Quakers

Shakers and Quakers are not the same thing and never have been. They do have similarities -- both Protestant sects that arose in England around the same time and came to America, and both believe in the immediate experience of God. And, yes, I can see both of them as somewhat analogous to the Sufis.

The Shakers are the ones who made the furniture. :)

Quakers -- or "Friends" -- are the ones who settled in Pennsylvania and got quite rich. The fellow on the side of Quaker Oats box is supposed to be an oldtime Pennsylvania Quaker, but the company has no ties with the religious organization and there is some resentment by Friends about that image. Quakers are still very active through the American Friends Service Committee in putting their peaceful money where their peaceful mouths are.

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