Letters to the Editor
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@adnoto
And what are you doing, chief?
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Elephant's Daddy is "Commander in Chief"
he should be our next Commander in Chief.
-- Elephantman
Unless you are a member of the armed forces George Bush is not your commander in chief, and Obama, nor anyone else will be "your next commander in chief".
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@elephantman
You've got your candidate, Obama, who supports you on this issue.
I've also got my nation's Founding Fathers, Jefferson et al., who support me on this issue.
Are you really so stupid that you don't recognize that you're advancing an un-American argument?
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Hilarious
Now, it is up to Obama, carrying this issue, to convince the voters in places like Shaker Heights OH, Warren MI, Orlando FL, Overland Park KS, and Lexington KY that his Senate vote for telcom lawsuits is the right one and that he should be our next Commander in Chief.
Defending the Constitution of the United States is always the right vote. I doubt that many people need to be convinced of that, Elephantman notwithstanding.
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A modest suggestion, Elephant.
Nothing that I write can change your mind.
Perhaps you should just try explaining your reasoning, understanding that each of us have our own take on matters and none are necessarily more sensible than the rest.
We may not convince one another of anything, but that doesn't mean we can't at least try to respect each other's point of view.
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rec'd from Democracy for America 2 hours ago ?????
Dear ,
Call Senator Reid and your own senators and demand they stand up to President Bush.
What is wrong with our Senate leadership?
Three times now, DFA members like you and me have made phone calls demanding Senators stand up to the Bush administration and pass a FISA bill without granting immunity to telecommunication companies who spied on innocent Americans.
Each time, Washington insiders predicted that we would fail to stop it. And because of you, each time the insiders were wrong.
But President Bush is determined to get telecom immunity passed before he leaves office because he knows the lawsuits against AT&T and Verizon are America's last chance to hold the Bush administration accountable for spying on you. He's even promised to veto any FISA reform bill that doesn't let his cronies off the hook.
How many Americans will die in Iraq while the Senate spends another worthless day fighting over a flawed bill that only the President and his friends want passed? How many children will continue to go without health insurance because the Senate is too busy helping AT&T instead of fighting to expand S-CHIP or provide health care for all?
Why is a "get out of jail free" card for Verizon more important than stopping global warming?
It's time to take FISA reform off the table until America elects a new President next November. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid could end this once and for all -- today.
Call Senator Reid right now and demand: No new FISA reforms while President Bush is still in office.
Democratic Majority Leader
Senator Harry Reid
(202) 224-3542
Suggested Script:
"Take telecom immunity off the table. Pull the FISA reform bill and extend current law until President Bush leaves office. The U.S. Senate has more important work to get done than figure out how to let AT&T get away with spying on Americans."
Please report your call here:
www.DemocracyforAmerica.com/reportfisacalls
Wait! Don't stop there. Contact your senators too! They need to know where you stand. Senator Reid is more likely to stand strong if your senator stands with him. Please call your senators now:
Senator Wayne Allard
(202) 224-5941
Senator Ken Salazar
(202) 224-5852
Don't forget to report how your calls went here:
www.DemocracyforAmerica.com/reportfisacalls
Washington insiders say we can't stop this bill. Maybe they are right, but we've heard it before. Let's see what they are saying after you and I and our progressive community make thousands of calls today.
We will stand up to President Bush today. Together, we'll demand the Senate follows our lead.
Thank you for everything you do,
-Charles
Charles Chamberlain
Political Director
[emphasis mine]
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I don't get it. Why am I just getting this. The Senate concluded its votes before this was sent. What's going on? Anyone know?
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@Bystander
I don't know. I was reading what you posted and said to myself, "I don't get it". Then I saw that you were saying and asking the same thing. That is strange. What kind of organization would 'purposely' put out an email like that in such an untimely manner? Very odd.
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Pinky...
Anyone that supports
Anyone that supports the US torturing 'people' has forfeit their rights to complain when 'they' torture our people.
The bar was lowered, probably permanently.
Still, I'd love a chance to waterboard Muck-ass-ee and O'Reilly and McConnell, et all...
'Water in the nose after swimming' ehh. Do you swim upside down sir?
-- Pinky
Pinky, here is how "they treat us."
They hijack our airliners and fly them into downtown buildings.
They blow up our troops and contractors while we attempt to fix their electricity grids and oil pipelines.
They blow up our citizens while they sit on commuter trains.
They behead our security forces, and burn their bodies.
They kill our reporters and chop their heads off on videotape.
AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT OUR HAVING 'WATERBOARDED' THREE OF THEM?
Oh, and to the Salon reader who lives in Mahattan and whose spouse is a first-responder there...
Could you please remind Pinky that Michael Mukasey, a neighbor of yours, has a bit of knowledge and experience in the legal war on terror, as he was the presiding U.S. Distict Court Judge in the (first) World Trade center (bombing) attack case?
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Hmmmmm.....
Remind me, when is Guy Fawkes day again?
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Kitt
I've now tried Reid's office three times. busy... busy... busy...
I have no clue what's up. Unless... Reid really can make a unilateral decision to pull the bill.
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@bystander
They are more than painfully aware that the push to stop the FISA amendments was coming from the internet, and therefore from the same people who fund things like, oh, the DFA, or maybe the Obama campaign, or the DSCC. So they want you to know they're on your side. And they don't think you can read a timestamp.
Expect next to get told that a 2 hour speech is a meaningful filibuster.