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The Senate's actions today in permanently protecting Bush officials from clear lawbreaking illustrate how far we've tumbled from the Church Committee of the post-Watergate era.
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  • Madeleine can take a hike

    I have before me a letter from former Secretary Albright asking for money to support the DSCC's drive to elect more Democratic senators this year.

    Why should I support the DSCC? Granted that W won't be around after Jan. 20, 2009, but suppose Hillary or Obama is defeated by war-mongering John McCain, and Harry Reid is still majority leader. Will I see my money go down the drain again as I did after the 2006 election?

    I ran up such a big bill on my credit cards in 2006 that I got a congratulatory certificate from Chuck Schumer.

    And that's all I got. I didn't get any attempt by Harry Reid and the rest of the Democrats to stop the lawless, unconstitutional and destructive actions of Bush and Cheney. And a senator whom I helped elect, Bob Casey, voted the other day to cut off debate on the FISA bill, thus barring amendments. I'm glad the vote failed.

    Which prompts me to ask: What the f*** is going on? Do Bush and Cheney have pictures of senators in compromising positions with farm animals or what? Obviously, the Senate Democrats are marching to the beat of a different drummer, as the saying goes.

    So I'm tired of being made a fool of by the Democratic Party. For all the good it did me and others who shared my ideals, I could have been giving my money to the Republicans. Now Madeleine Albright and the rest of the Democrats can take their appeals for money and stick them where the sun never shines.

    This year, any contributions I make will go to defeat Republicans and incumbent Democrats who vote like Republicans.

    I'm a lifelong Democrat. My first vote was cast for JFK. But I'll never again support the Democratic Party until it gets rid of its fuzzy-thinking advisers and gets back to the principles it's supposed to stand on.

  • @Nick:

    I personally would feel a lot more secure knowing that EVERYONE would only help the government when they were certain that the actions were legal.

    -- nick

    Lee Hamilton's statement was hip-boot-deep bullshit. Your reply is what one would expect from anyone who believes in the US constitution. But to put a cherry on top of the pile of bull from Hamilton, he's talking about telcom companies. Telecom companies who employ a full boat of high priced attorneys at all times. They are in no danger of not knowing if what they are being asked to do is legal or not.

  • It's only been thirty fucking years

    From the final report of the SELECT COMMITTEE TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS WITH RESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES: UNITED STATES SENATE (The "Church Committee"):

    This Committee has examined a realm of governmental information collection which has not been governed by restraints comparable to those in criminal proceedings. We have examined the collection of intelligence about the political advocacy and actions and the private lives of American citizens. That information has been used covertly to discredit the ideas advocated and to "neutralize" the actions of their proponents. As Attorney General Harlan Fiske Stone warned in 1924, when he sought to keep federal agencies from investigating "political or other opinions" as opposed to "conduct . . . forbidden by the laws":
    When a police system passes beyond these limits, it is dangerous to the proper administration of justice and to human liberty, which it should be our first concern to cherish.

    . . . There is always a possibility that a secret police may become a menace to free government and free institutions because it carries with it the possibility of abuses of power which are not always quickly apprehended or understood. 7

    Our investigation has confirmed that warning. We have seen segments of our Government, in their attitudes and action, adopt tactics unworthy of a democracy, and occasionally reminiscent of the tactics of totalitarian regimes. We have seen a consistent pattern in which programs initiated with limited goals, such as preventing criminal violence or identifying foreign spies, were expanded to what witnesses characterized as "vacuum cleaners"," sweeping in information about lawful activities of American citizens.

    The tendency of intelligence activities to expand beyond their initial scope is a theme which runs through every aspect of our investigative findings. Intelligence collection programs naturally generate ever-increasing demands for new data. And once intelligence has been collected, there are strong pressures to use it against the target.

    The pattern of intelligence agencies expanding the scope of their activities was well described by one witness, who in 1970 had coordinated an effort by most of the intelligence community to obtain authority to undertake more illegal domestic activity:

    The risk was that you would get people who would be susceptible to political considerations as opposed to national security considerations, or would construe political considerations to be national security considerations, to move from the, kid with a bomb to the kid with a picket sign, and from the kid with the picket sign to the kid with the bumper sticker of the opposing candidate. And you just keep going down the line. 9

    In 1940, Attorney General Robert Jackson saw the same risk. He recognized that using broad labels like "national security" or "subversion" to invoke the vast power of the government is dangerous because there are "no definite standards to determine what constitutes a 'subversive activity, such as we have for murder or larceny." Jackson added:

    Activities which seem benevolent or helpful to wage earners, persons on relief, or those who are disadvantaged in the struggle for existence may be regarded as 'subversive' by those whose property interests might be burdened thereby. Those who are in office are apt to regard as 'subversive' the activities of any of those who would bring about a change of administration. Some of our soundest constitutional doctrines were once punished as subversive. We must not forget that it was not so long ago that both the term 'Republican' and the term 'Democrat' were epithets with sinister meaning to denote persons of radical tendencies that were 'subversive' of the order of things then dominant. 10

    This wise warning was not heeded in the conduct of intelligence activity, where the "eternal vigilance" which is the "price of liberty" has been forgotten.