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Tuesday, February 5, 2008 12:00 AM

Fun and games with terrorist threats

Al-Qaida is coming ... Al-Qaida is coming ... Al-Qaida is coming.

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Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:13 AM

@William Timberman

This could morph into a mini-caravan.

We'll have to rent a few more jalopies, preferably very rusty and with coughing, belching engines.

Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:15 AM

William Timberman

You drive!

The last time Dirigo went with us hillbilly possums for a night out to visit the boarded and Closed Down store fronts in small towns across America to those square dance halls, Dirigo got us in too much trouble when he asked the base-player gal who chewed tobacco to slow dance. Remember?

The other cute gals thought the pint bottle of Wild Turkey in his front pants was something else? A bulgy. Who called the cops? huh.

Ah, well. Ondelette.

maybe you drive? or, Kitt?

Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:20 AM

Anonymust re: editors at the NYT & MoDo

That's pretty interesting. Somerby notes the difference in the print copy in his lap versus the copy that's been scrubbed online. I get the impression that the full print copy went up online, and the online editing occurred later.

If I had a script to the print edition to the NYT, I'd watch that for awhile. Can't help but wonder if the Times isn't coming to recognize that their net readers are different than their print readers. MoDo catches flack all over various blogs. And, readers on the net are gradually recognizing that they can vote with their eyeballs. No "looks," no eyeballs, reduced ad revenue. I've no doubt that various blogs are monitored to some extent by various marketing/advertising firms, as well.

Of course, it could be nothing more than the NYT deciding that while trashing Hillary is still a good thing, an editorial decision may have been made to put Obama out of bounds for similar treatment. I have never been more aware the many ways in which the major media outlets effectively steer their readers/viewers. I'll happily leave that formal analysis to some graduate student in journalism, or to Media Matters.

Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:23 AM

ondelette.

If you take a throw away Kodak,

or a 35-millimeter black Cannon,

or a Nike Polaroid unidiomatic,

Please don't aim it at William.

He may think it's a loaded device.

Colt 45-gun?

Drink bud or.

Colt 45 malts.

Glenn can drive?

Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:27 AM

Torture and the "Really Good Hearsay" Exception

So the Bush Administration does waterboard people, but only if they're "really, really bad". This is a straightforward admission of conduct that is criminal on every conceivable level and, if what Newsweek is reporting is correct, they're only admitting it now to try to spin a slip of John Negroponte's tongue last week.

But these public assertions that "yes, we do it and we'd do it again" are being stated as if the Bush Administration actually has the right to make that kind of decision, and they are coming from people who apparently live in a bubble in which they tell each other that the law doesn't apply to them if they disagree with it. And there is virtually no media attention to what they are saying -- even Olbermann simply lumped these recent admissions into the "isn't this just another example of Bad Bushness" segment of his show, not ascribing any particular significance to the announcements.

But this is a war crime. The US has prosecuted people for war crimes for doing exactly this. It's torture. The Bush Administration has been dancing around whether they "did or didn't authorize this" for a long damn time but now -- because one of their own accidently forgot the playbook and made a definitive statement -- it's suddenly "yes we did and we'll do it again." In your face, world. They are banking on us being so desensitized by their parade of illegal actions that this one just slides by as "old news."

There's a joke among lawyers. Ridiculously inadmissible evidence is offered in court; the defense lawyer says "objection, hearsay" and the judge asks the prosecutor if there is an exception to the hearsay rule that would permit it. After a moment's thought, the prosecutor says "well, it's really good hearsay, Your Honor." This is funny because there's no such thing as a "really good hearsay" objection, that's not what matters under the Rule of Law. But the Bush Administration is looking us all in the eye and saying they have the unilateral power to ignore international law, American law and morality if they think it's "really good torture."

Glenn, hurry back and walk us through this wilderness, please.

Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:33 AM

Good Celery

I can drive, but I can't operate a 35mm at the same time. I like to yell at the other drivers, it drives everybody crazy.

If you have a black Canon, maybe I can ride shotgun?

Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:34 AM

In The News: Prosecutor May Have Known Of CIA Tapes

From the AP and The New York Times:

"The lead prosecutor in the terror case against Zacarias Moussaoui may have known the CIA destroyed tapes of its interrogation of an al-Qaida suspect more than a year before the government acknowledged it to the court.

The documents, which were declassified and released on Wednesday by the 4th U.S. District Court of Appeals, details efforts by Moussaoui's attorneys to send the case back to a lower federal court to find out whether the tapes should have been disclosed and whether they would have influenced his decision to plead guilty."

[A justice department letter to the court, dated 12/18/07] "said the prosecutor, Robert A. Spencer, may have been told of the tapes' destruction in late February or early March 2006 just as the U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va. was beginning its trial on whether Moussaoui would be eligible to face the death penalty."

Spencer is quoted in the story as saying he "does not recall being told this information."

Source: Times/AP, 2/07/08

Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:34 AM

apologies. silly. Let's get on to business.

I am running real behind the times.

For fun. Pretend to use red lipstick.

Fill the computer-window with daily kisses.

Smack. Pow. Right in the big old fat kisser.

Thursday, February 7, 2008 08:53 AM

ondelette.

I do have a pawned Cannon 35-millimeter F-1 camera.

You drive anyway? I drive too slow. Drivers pass and give me the middle finger. I honk and scream, "Hello!" And to speed up is fun if you raise a Cheer with a cool-can of cheap-o beer.

Don't drive if bare. No date bears with pink hair curlers.

Drink and drink along with a happy face. Drive slow is safe. It's best to select the little pinkie-finger and Rio Grand ?

O, and no drive into a big whore's DC house ditch. huh.

Have a safe truck-drive tho...Hold the can of beer firmly while sticking outward the tiny pinko. out/over. gads. behave. No read my advice. Drink with a plastic Mcdonalds straw but, remain awake at the wheel and Mr. hazy 'A', no roll joints, drink beer, and be at the steering wheel at the same time. Don't drive in reverse. Often you think cool. Be careful on that Schwinn bicycle.

Don't drink and drive a mule team anywhere. Don't gamble.

Save pennies for a rain-day blind date.

I'm always on probation.

If blind read braille.

And don't read this or,

drive while too drunk.

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