Letters to the Editor
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@gwool @7:15AM 1/31
Wow, blown away by your comment. Thank you,
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Why doesn't he just spell out his criticism......
Glenn knows that we can do that ourslves . It's "By-your-own-bootstraps" criticism in here. ;D
Hyperdimensional physics ? Never know what you're going to find in here .Cool.
Got a letter from the NRCC tonight . ( Awhile ago, asked them to "Let me know what you weasels are up to.") I see that they've started a blog . One where you can actually put your own comments , not just pick some predetermined multiple choice answer (in which all answers are bad) Their mistake . Their constituents are giving them hell........ about giving in to and being too much like Democrats! =))) Some reasoned, spot-on critique of their work , but also a lot of "George-Soros-is-gonna-ruin-us-if-you-don't-stop-it" stuff too. ( Him being the only "OLD-RICH-GUY" giving out political money is just not fair!)
The Honorable Congressmen answered some posts too. Such as this:
" I say let the Republican platform be 'It's time to get our country "back" to what our forefathers intended. ' "Hooray" for the Constitution" - Nancy
( don't think she was talking about FISA/immunity)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy :"Nancy , you are correct . Our country was built on more than just a slogan, or a poll-tested catch phrase; it was built on a Constitution of everlasting ideals . President Reagan understood this..."
followed by more unintentional comedy .
NOTGONNADOIT! NOTGONNADOIT! NOTGONNADOIT! but I did .....wrote and suggested that they remind certain White House denizens of that whole incovenient Constitution thing . *sigh* ( and if they want Hillary spying on THEM)
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@proxy war
Greenwald is a lawyer, and his better writing basically reads legalistically - humourless, literal, bereft of imaginition, and to the point. But it's embarrasing when he trys to put lipstick on the pig.
I have to admit that I, to some degree, agree with you here.
I feel that Glenn is not fully comfortable with being ironic or sarcastic.
However, in Glenn's defense, I think there is good reason to shy away from, or be very careful with that sort of dialog.
To be so overly sarcastic is to swim in the pool of broad generalizations, to lob the mud from the poisoned river-bed of invective rhetoric at ones adversary.
I think Glenn's overall point is that this is the de rigeur level of discourse from the far right, aimed at the center and left. Mudslinging, framing your opponent as a clown or a fool, that is par for the course. And of course, the mud in invariably slung back.
I respect Mr Greenwald's obvious distaste for those tactics.
That I sometimes relish those same tactics belies a personal weakness in myself.
Reading the comments section of Greenwald's column shames me into avoiding my worst impulses to be derisive and divisive. Even you, even Shooter, even, Yahweh bless him, David Sugarman often remind me to hold my tongue.
But, and I believe this sincerely, "you started it." :)
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The fuckwit returns
"Forget it, Glenn. The satire didn't work the first time"
That's the first worthwhile thing you've ever said.
Glenn's 'satire' (and it diminishes the word to apply it to Glenn's crude stylings) didn't work, because he is no kind of satirist.
"Who could have imagined these two sentences adjacent to each other in a single post of one person?"
Perhaps someone who understands the distinction between criticism and mockery.
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Simple question
I've never seen this addressd in the MSM, but the Bush Administration caved into one the key demands of Osama bin Laden nearly five years ago.
All US combat troops were withdrawn from Saudia Arabia in 2003 and the activities of the air force base were shifted to Qatar.
The US only has a few token training soldiers in Saudia Arabia.
So while the Bushies are reduced to crowing such legalisms about 'no terrorist attacks since 2001 on US soil', the forget their unitlateral surrender to the fundamental bin Laden dictat.
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again...
"I feel that Glenn is not fully comfortable with being ironic or sarcastic."
Comfortable or not, he's just not very good at it.
Irony and sarcasm can be powerful and even overwhelming tools in skilful hands.
"I think Glenn's overall point is that this is the de rigeur level of discourse from the far right, aimed at the center and left. Mudslinging, framing your opponent as a clown or a fool, that is par for the course. I respect Mr Greenwald's obvious distaste for those tactics."
Generally the distinction is that the right mocks the left and thinks of them as niave, misguided, and foolish, wheres the left believes the right is evil and venal and corrupt. Among the wingnuts on both sides, that is the essential difference.
"Reading the comments section of Greenwald's column shames me into avoiding my worst impulses to be derisive and divisive. Even you, even Shooter, even, Yahweh bless him, David Sugarman often remind me to hold my tongue."
My first post was a criticism of Glenn's posting style which occassioned an instant flurry of the usual leftwing insults to my humanity. Water off a duck's back of course, but the idea that the right has any monopoly on uncivil discourse or lowering the tone is belied by most of the posters here.
As for me 'starting it', anyone who shows up here and disagrees with the fringe consesus that the sun sets somewhere between Glenn Greenwald's buttocks is confronted with a broadside of insults and accusations as a matter of course. So yes, you guys are very civil up until the moment someone disagrees with you.
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Good morning. I'll not turn this on this morning. Outside a freezing rain is falling.
I think some people would love to employ sarcasm but are 'forced' to 'bite' the tongue' and use sarcasm, irony, parody, and outright mockery, carefully.
It's because of a more refined professional role they must perform. The borders, so to speak, are more tempting to cross but, a person is 'forced' to refrain from appearing caustic, abrasive, and just plain old "rude" in the public settings.
My son and I were speaking about *sarcasm. He remembers a Cornell professor warning: He told the class it is best to refrain from 8sarcasm as a habitual communication style.
My thoughts this morn wandered back to high school days. The high school was small, and of course, the non-academic crowd I hung with were the most likely to get suspended, detention, and 'labeled' less likely to 'amount' to a Hill of Beans.
It was sometimes true...but there was a honest banker who died in his thirties, a classical guitarist, a lawyer who works now for a Law Firm who gave her a maternity leave that was more generous than a whole college annual salary
(hello Ms. M.) as a maternity perk. A deserved benefit!
O, there was the High school crowd who came to school late with Colt-45 malt liquor on their breath. heh. "What Kind of gum are you chewing?" ask the principal pal? "All buses are running on time...and where is bebop-o's hoodlum gang in the black 59 ford?" Late to school. On time for a party?
In the principals office on a one-on-one style interrogation...the chief-pal of the school ask, "Which tire was flat?" Well, we all had a different remembrance if whether the flat was the left front, back rear, or the one in the trunk rear.
Sarcasm *
A very likable high school guy we nicknamed, Dopey, was always unlucky. If he had a date with a girl rumored to have a butterfly tatoo on her left rear rump! He went out and got a sick-leave-excuse, and took doses of penicillin shots for weeks. We who 'ridiculed Dopey were naive and merciless..."Dopey you are crazy. You look terribly pale. You sure your not approaching death?" He took it to heart as a good young student...
Dopey was so depressed. He hid the sad melancholy blues from us. Dopey visited the 'Guidance Counselor' to confess a suicide "sedation" consideration was haunting him... The wise Guidance and careful intervention from other teacher-staff cleared things up. Dopey was better for his confession and honesty. We learned something also.
We liked Dopey but the biting sarcasm was dangerous. A fear and insecurity condition was mounting within Dopey...
Sarcasm is potentially dangerous. It can be a style useful for GOP self-Reflection.
Cut the fake neocon neoconservative some slack? No. The adults on this bloody stage are beyond hope at this chronological age. None will morn their mental, emotional, or total crackup and certain funeral death.
What crapper Hullabaloo! Pseudo. Yapping hyena's feeding on dead corps. 'um too Putrid. I hope they swallow a whole watermelon and make the world a better place. All they do is gnaw bone marrow, dead flesh, and grizzle.
What's for breakfast? Rotten eggs? apologies. I care about our nations well-being. I thank the others here who do too...GOPS remind me of scroungy mutts who chase nude bikers and bite Glenn's toenails.