Bahhumbug.

Place unwrapped Juicy Fruit chewing gum in the runways of moles and trolls. Gum gums up the troll's and moles digestive system. It' known to banish moles and trolls from a garden.

`Plant scilla bulbs over the mole/troll runways.

`Flood the troll/troll with water. Stick a pinwheel on a stick to send vibrations into the mole/troll tunnel.

Plant castor beans.

Plant wild broad leeks, scallions, and onions in February. Be careful. Be aware. There are all kinds of wives tale troll/mole cures. Try the chewing gum. It's the easiest. If crows eat your corn etc., respect that the crow is no dummy. Ask Che? Hang some fur pelts in the garden. Hang those shiny plates used pie tins? They reflect a confusing light... ~

... . ' round the backyard garden patch. Crows get hair caught in the throat. The pest birds will cry. If feeling real prone to violence, a gardener can resort to pouring some used-motor-oil on the birds-food?

Try a spoonful of turpentine,

to a pound of corn bait - huh?

Plant a garden this Springtime.

Somehow we will all survive? heh.

The Senate & House have come to an agreement and the Senate will take up the 15 day extension tomorrow. They'll also be working Monday and Super Tuesday due to all the time they've spent the last couple of days on PAA.

Good question...

You should send your comments along to David Kris (if you haven't already), to sound him out about them

Do you have contact info?

If not public, then feel free to drop me a line: zuch (at-sign) ix (dot) netcom (dot) com....

Cheers,

As of May, 2007, from his submitted SSCI Congressional testimony re the proposed FISA legislation:

David Kris

800 Connecticut Avenue, NW

Suite 800

Washington, D.C. 20006

His SSCI testimony is linked in the footnotes (#142) of Kris's paper, which I took such liberty in excerpting from here. I assumed an e-mail contact for him was listed somewhere in that paper as well, but I don't see one. Marty Lederman, however, almost certainly has an e-mail address for Kris, and presumably would be happy to forward it to you. Thanks for pursuing this with him, Arne - I understand (from a comment by lhp at FDL) that Kris gave a talk about FISA in New York last Thursday evening, so he's very much still on top of the subject.

Return from a long days' work to find my comment quoted by Glenn; head naturally swells to watermelon size; proceed through rest of comments; note Kitt's catch of my appalling Obama/Osama switch; head shrinks back to proper petite pois diameter.

Thanks, K, for saving me embarrassment on the front page.

Wierd. Didn't get it......

Am sending 'test' from actual addy. Dunno what dint work!

Test worked. Please try againg.

Pedinska@yahoo.com

"Does it make sense to say you need a warrant to spy on one person, but no warrant to spy on everyone?" - Arne L.

In Hepting v AT&T (the pending FISA litigation), Judge Walker denies the motion to dismiss based on AT&T arguments that the plaintiff's lack standing. AT&T argued that “[p]laintiffs lack standing to assert their statutory claims (Counts II-VII) because the FAC alleges no facts suggesting that their statutory rights have been violated” and “the FAC alleges nothing to suggest that the named plaintiffs were themselves subject to surveillance.”

Judge Walker writes "But AT&T ignores that the gravamen of

plaintiffs’ complaint is that AT&T has created a dragnet that

collects the content and records of its customers’ communications. The court cannot see how any one plaintiff will have failed to demonstrate injury-in-fact if that plaintiff effectively demonstrates that all class members have so suffered."

Arlo: “I love this guy. Dr. Paul is the only candidate I know of who would have signed the Constitution of The United States had he been there. ..."

Aycharaych: 'That's why Paul is a "loon".'

And so am I.

It is not clear to me exactly when the overwhelming vast majority of America became militarized cheerleaders for war, death, destruction, brutality, and theft; but that is America today. I once mentioned non-interventionism on this very forum and you would have thought I was recommending roast babies in duck sauce; well, that idea might have gone over better to many here come to think of it.

Somewhere along the line we lost the knowledge that other folks deserve to be left along unless they attack you; yes, left alone even if they are harming themselves with chemical substances, or believe in 409 'gods', or dress oddly, or ...

Both 'the right' and 'the left' desire a very powerful central government; even if for different reasons, even if for the 'best of reasons.' That is why the central government consolidates power administration after administration. That is why a man trying to sell peace is a lonely fellow in this country.

LBJ is loved by some here; in spite of his violent intervention in Vietnam, and his violent intervention in the domestic economy. Worshiped by some, he is. Sad. On the other hand, Grover Cleveland's admirers praise him for his honesty, independence, integrity, and commitment to the principles of classical liberalism. He opposed imperialism, taxes, corruption, patronage, subsidies and inflationary policies. Yet he always comes in low on the list of 'great' presidents.

Why does the left and the right hate classical liberalism? It is a poser.

It is not clear to me exactly when the overwhelming vast majority of America became militarized cheerleaders for war, death, destruction, brutality, and theft; but that is America today.

Up until our entry into WWII the US had a relatively small standing military that had mostly been used for stealing from banana republics of one flavor or another on behalf of the United Fruit Company and their ilk.

If Hitler had not gone ahead with operation Barbarossa WWII could easily have ended differently than it did. I hung out on soc.history.what-if for many years and that was one of the major scenarios that have been played and replayed there by people who know far more than I.

Despite the fact that twenty million Soviet citizens died in WWII Americans got the idea that we beat Hitler and Tojo all by our lonesome, with maybe a little help from the Brits and the Aussies.

The leaders of the Allies, unlike our present cabal, had learned the lessons of history and treated Germany and Japan in a manner that has kept them peaceful to this day, an amazing feat really.

America had tended toward hubris from fairly early on but WWII turned it into a form of religion. From that came the Cold War, the rise of the Military/Industrial complex, McCarthyism and the overweening sense that America was the unquestioned moral leader in the world.

I once mentioned non-interventionism on this very forum and you would have thought I was recommending roast babies in duck sauce; well, that idea might have gone over better to many here come to think of it.

Long pig lends itself better to barbecue sauce.

Somewhere along the line we lost the knowledge that other folks deserve to be left along unless they attack you; yes, left alone even if they are harming themselves with chemical substances, or believe in 409 'gods', or dress oddly, or ...

Utter conviction of the perfection of your own morality is a sure sign that you are going to embark on a course of barbarity. Like the Islamists, the Christianists of the US are utterly convinced of the perfection of their morality and there is absolutely nothing which will convince them otherwise. That conviction is the foundation of their own sense of being and pricking the bubble would lead to a sociological collapse of literally earth shaking proportions. This is why the nastiest images from Abu Ghraib have not ever seen the light of day and most likely never will.

It's been said that we hate in others that which most reminds us of ourselves. The Christianists see their reflection in the Islamists and to a large extent this explains the unthinking hatred that is directed toward Muslims in general.