Letters to the Editor

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Any doubts about the Clinton campaign's South Carolina message were dispelled by the ex-president's ugly remarks Saturday.
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  • The race card and the resurgence of Bill Clinton

    "if you want to critisize [sic] Bill for playing a race card, i can't stop you, but if what he said was that Obama won the SC primary b/c of race, then what has he said that no one else has?"

    That's not what Clinton said. He made the comparison between Obama's campaign of 2008 and Jesse Jackson's campaign of 1984 and 1988. This was widely interpreted as a dismissal of Obama as someone who ran a respectable campaign, but who would not appeal to white voters on a national scale (cf. remarks by Joan Walsh, Glenn Greenwald, Big Tent Democrat of TalkLeft and Bill Kritol of the NYT, among many other sources).

    The upshot of the media commentary and focus on Bill Clinton has been detrimental to Hillary, as evidenced by

    her campaign's effort to "tamp down" his role in her candidacy. The concern is that the former president's "...prominence may have dampened [Hillary Clinton's] appeal as a strong leader" ("After Obama Victory, Clinton’s Camp Seeks Gentler Role for Ex-President." NYT Jan 28).

    Whether you believe Clinton's remarks were completely innocent and immune to any racial interpretation whatsoever, a graceful concession to Obama's South Carolina rout, or a divisive coded message, Clinton's campaign is attempting to reign in the former president for having overshadowed his spouse.

  • Blended, by Rights

    Gordon, I personally prefer Johhny Walker, with a splash of soda, to any snobbish single malt that the pretentious might proffer. It's also less fattening than all of those other currently popular frou-frou ten dollar concoctions; always a concern for the 40-plus.

    Drink liberally, as the saying goes, but that doesn't mean impractically.

  • If they cant't stand the heat

    While the democrats are falling all over themselves to be the politically correct party by analyzing every little phrase that might offend one another, the republicans are designing their political ads which will be to search and destroy whomever might be the nominee. And then when the day after the election comes, we wonder what happened.

    Let the Clintons and Obama run their campaigns, let the people vote, and then we see what happens. The media, on a daily basis, need food for fodder (including you, Mr. Greenwald), and you end up spinning everything into a major bitchslap. As numerous other posters have said, politics is a dirty business and if Obama can't handle being compared to JJ, and Hillary can't handle being called any number of unbecoming names, then they both need to get out now. As for Obama garnering the black vote in SC, and Hillary the white vote, call it what it is - people voting for where they think their best interests lie. New concept? I don't think so.

  • Cocktailhag: With a Wink and a Nod

    over the rim of the rocks glass, "Cheers" to you, dear.

    And now, with the warm glow of that amber blend inside, savoring Blue-State Label fantasies... it's off to work.

  • Gordon

    I see you in my mind-eye leaning up against the refrigerator door.

    Cocktailhag has pink hair curlers, and is rattling ice cubes in a wide mouth glass, a lime, a cherry, and a olive dangles on the lip.

    Don't misunderstand me...She lives on the 13th floor. If she staggers to a balcony to DUI walk what will guest think? She may just shock us all by smoking a rum-sweet-crook cigar, or puff a Pall Mall or Camel smoke? My thanks to many inspirations here. For Cocktailhag? smack.

    ``

    *The Oster Oven and Toaster.

    She can get lit and light either end.

    In the rolling oven artsier roasted:

    squirrel, duck, chicken, groundhog pig,

    whirls round and round while she sings.

    The arrow is the turning rolling spit.

    The axis of the world, if we think a bit.

  • Why is Glenn such a racist?

    What's the matter with Jesse Jackson?

  • to search and destroy

    As was noted upthread, going negative requires a complex Kabuki of plausable deniability in order to be effective.

    After all, most of the acrimony on this thread has been over which candidate was meaner, more unfair or more blatantly "played the race card". The Republicans are not immune to such considerations.

    The same arithmetic that notes that blacks in SC represent 50% of Dem voters but < 30% of the general population suggests that mouth-foaming hatemongers represent 50% of Rebublican voters but only 30% of the general population.

    Relentless negativity WILL alienate the middle 40% that will otherwise swing the general election.

  • over/out for a rest day and read children books.

    Maybe tonight I'll be in the gallery to sing next to dizzy YKW while every concerned citizen is singing in Unison their aspirations and Hopes.

    O, wiggly woo, wigwam-wee, and we must all can sing the looney tune lyrics and act sober minded too? Well, maybe it's good we speak behind the Dell window screen for a guardian protection.

    *To gardner people

    O, a farmer in the dell, hi-0h-hi-dear yow, oh, some take a wife, a wise one loves 'um all, but yaks, aka, hack, de' trolls, O, eieio! i no iq today, so I sing~

    O, 'Happy Monday To All' of...

    O, Yoooooou'...heh, heh, heh. huh. yow silly? yes. and a gop?

    O, a clod hopper green grasshopper? O, go ask silly kovie.

    ``

    *

    O, ah, heh, heh, what's up doc.

    What a thunderclap moo cow flop!

    If the computer days were not here,

    We People could beg for a window screen,

    We People would be pelted with rotten trash!

  • I bet Shooter, Tiberius and Elephantman are laughing their asses off.

    What a train wreck of a thread! And boring too, all heat and zero light

    I think this thread drives a stake through the heart of the idea that "race" is not an issue in America in 2008.

  • The last post I made made me feel extra stooped.

    I'll try harder. I agree. Often a prof, a Paul, a seeming 'nobody' but a powerful boast of 'dynamism'

    from a real-Somebody...Pow. Thanks. A good smack. A good kiss.

    *

    A thought is expressed by someone that pierces to open a whole new perspective. I often get tongue-tied and wait for a second or a day, or a full week to process. I go to a Mennonite's farm to watch a cow chew bubble gum. Pop-goes-a bushier tale weasel?

    `

    Today I'll wonder what bad jokes the vicious crusading horned hatted Huns told at the

    saloon pubs on the days like today?

    As we pass the 21st century away wondering,

    Who put the sand in the Vaseline can of the professor?

    What sorts of a GOP person would do something so mean?

    If I had a request, it would be to grease the C.H. seats.

    I hope the President insist that everyone snore like ole Bill.

    If there is '1' or '1,001' standing ovations tonight, I'll scram!

    Scream!

    O, eat ice cream with a baby bib?

    O, drink LB-Johnson brand baby oil?

    Stay outta jail. Clinton sleeps in peace?