@prunes, January 24, 2008 01:58 PM

"I am scared that my friends and family may get comfortable with the idea that we can change people's minds by dropping bombs on women and children, or that we can protect the country by controlling citizen's personal lives.

"I can see no fundamental difference between that mindset and that of al Qaeda, different words for the same things."

If you're referring to Osama bin Bush Syndrome, they must both very much resemble... I mean, resent that comparison.

KR

The American people pissing on their patrimony.

(applies to some few in this thread, most Republicans, some Democrats and to many citizens in general).

. . . the long-term, systematic destruction of the port of New York and the formerly massive manufacturing base it supported. Naturally, the goal was to pump up bad real estate investments the family had made over the years, and get rid of "messy" industries and the good-paying union jobs they provided to New York's non-elites.

I would encourage you to check it out.

Oh, jeez, do have to? I mean, I've already read so many of them.

I've summarized them this way in earlier posts:

Transnational corporatists have no use for the US as a free country, but only as a vehicle for global military imperialism and as a corpse to bleed dry of its wealth.

Many scholars believe the last fifty years of progressive middle-class freedom and prosperity to have been only a temporary aberration of history, since most of human history has been characterized by large poor populations dominated by small ruling classes. It very much appears that we're about to return to the historical model. The coming economic catastrophe will finally enable the Powers That Be to foreclose on the US economy and federal government, and that will be that.

I been told that "It can happen here." I disagree. It did happen here.

We figure The US as You Have Known It was over about six years ago and that The Powers That Be are just being really slow about notifying us.

When and if the country goes into a depression and a pub worse than Bush becomes the next president, do try to act surprised.

Walter, I was only making that suggestion that you read the book assuming that, like me, you enjoy following interrelated subjects wherever they might lead, and derive great pleasure in pulling together seemingly unrelated trends and occurrences. That's definitely the impression I get from reading your excellent posts.

The reason I was evangelizing for that particular book, aside from its focus on another of the drearily repetitive assaults on working Americans' security by the overclass, was its fascinating particulars about the Rockefellers, and how their many mistakes and their relentless efforts to cover them, changed history in ways great and small.

One "contribution" of theirs was the World Trade Center, which Fitch calls, "real estate Stalinism," and how as the proposed uneconomic project was foundering unborn, David came up with the genius marketing idea of making it "the tallest in the world." Budgetary realities dictated that the buildings be redesigned much more cheaply to accomplish this, and the novel idea, enabled by the fact that the Port Authority was exempt from standard building codes, was to use hardly any structural steel in them. And we all know how that turned out.

by C. Rake.

a tease thought.

"We accept that we cannot satisfy the mentally deranged, those experiencing dementia or hallucinations, the chemically imbalanced, those under the influence of alcohol or mind altering drugs, genetic mutants, those possessed or hearing "the voices", those seeking governmental surplus or inferior quality, chronic complainers, the illiterate, former spouses, & the (NSA)."

C. Rake said the IRS.

Thich Nhat Hanh will not hurt.

That monk has big ears and a big smile.

He has a big heart and likes a "huggable" person.

I've given him a pound chunk of comb honey and blueberries.

Jkalos. Tai says there are people in our time who are a Light at the tip of a candle here to guide.

It's fun to browse the 35th Anniversary Edition of Johnny's Selected Seeds. Yep. Survive or die in the inner Spirit.

I know. I'm just tired. I'm very old, you know.

And yet, I thank God that I am not young, in so thoroughly finished a world. And I'm an atheist. So go figure.

Anonymous, January 24, 2008 04:00 PM:

"The Saddest Sight in the World

"The American people pissing on their patrimony.

"(applies to some few in this thread, most Republicans, some Democrats and to many citizens in general)."

Hold on there, now, Anon. Are you the real Anonymous or the impersonator one?

If you're the real Anonymous, but impersonating the impersonator Anonymous, then I'll know you're probably just being ironic, here.

But if you're the impersonator Anonymous impersonating the real Anonymous, then you're probably being sardonic.

So which it is of the two you are?

Or, more succinctly, "What it are"?

KR

You heard of the hungry agnostic? Labels confuse.

But in the coming days the neo-whatever-label tag,

folk may be seen shaking an acorn nut from a oak tree!

The Bush's loyalist may be seem praying at the dumpster,

hungry for a big slice of a hot dog bun or cold Pizza Pie crust.

Egads.

What hath Reid and Rockefeller wrought?

Forgive them, I suppose, for clearly they know not what they do.

Aux armes, citoyens!

Formez vos bataillons!

Marchons! Marchons!

Etc.

Okay, Conservativeslayer, and anyone else from Colorado lurking in the threads - or, anyone who has friends or family in Colorado and wants to help - our very own Senator Salazar is on the list of those we need to try to flip, and get them to vote against cloture on Monday.

Salazar (202) 224-5852

http://salazar.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

It may well be mission impossible, but we have nothing to lose by trying.

Marcy Wheeler's full list:

Meanwhile, call these people and tell them to vote against cloture:

Bayh (202) 224-5623

Carper (202) 224-2441

Inouye (202) 224-3934

Johnson (202) 224-5842

Landrieu (202)224-5824

McCaskill (202) 224-6154

Mikulski (202) 224-4654

Nelson (FL) (202) 224-5274

Nelson (NE) (202) 224-6551

Pryor (202) 224-2353

Salazar (202) 224-5852