Letters to the Editor
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A question
Greetings
Were any shots fired by any American Navy Ship in this alleged incident?
Any kind of shot:
Flare gun, warning shot by a deck gun, machine gun drawing a line of tracers in the water as a deadline?!?
Post-Cole with other small boat threats in the area ie Somalia and Mallacca, the Navy ships have plenty of tools designed to turn your average 'threatening' speedboat into so much floating and sinking debris, QUICKLY!!
The fact that no one in authority charged with protecting ship and crew felt urgent need to use any of those assets EVEN AS WARNING is damning!
Someone tell us the "rules of engagement" for small boat threats and we will likely quickly see this incident as very very bogus indeed
Enjoy the journey
WarLord
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My First Thought Wasn't Jessica Lynch or Pat Tillman
When I think about the credibility of statements made by the military, I think of Col. Boylan. See: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/28/boylan/
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Anonymous..
That said, the tone of both the article and most of the subsequent comments truly saddened me.
What should sadden you is that the US military has a reputation for untruthfulness which makes it very difficult to take anything they say at face value.
And I say this as a vet and the father in law of another vet.
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Script Writers Needed
Besides, incompetent execution would rather seem to implicate, rather than exonerate, the operatives on the current Administration...
-- Paul Daniel Ash
Yes, that's true. Look at the pattern. It's bad enough that incompetent script writers of the administration make stuff up but look at the B Movie scripts they resort to due to their inability to write anything of quality. The Jessica Lynch Story was laughable. The "heroics" she was supposed to have acted out before capture. The theatrics of her "rescue". Absurdly overblown, even for a B Movie script. The Pat Tillman story they fabricated was just as bad in the realm of it being a poorly written script. And in each case the incompetent script writers used military personal for their propagandistic ends. One, Jessica Lynch, who had already gone through the ordeal of a crash in a war zone and then capture. And one, Pat Tillman, who had been killed.
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@had_enough
Thank you - those are my thoughts as well. Unless and until events like this are fully dissected and sorted for truth... they subconsciously become fuel for hatred. And that hatred is then nurtured into support for actions that Americans would otherwise never tolerate. We saw as much in the run up to the present war in Iraq. I remember wishing that I was wrong on the eve of the war... hoping that Saddam was indeed a threat worthy of war. I remember reasoning with myself 'they must know something I don't... otherwise why would they be going to war?'
I was a sucker. I acquiesced to the war (not that my objection would have done anything, given this leadership) with a heavy heart. I hope that helps explain my outrage then when I found my doubts to be well founded. I think it also explains my extreme skepticism now of any "evidence" that Iran must be attacked militarily.
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Aside from the voice, to my untrained eyes the video shows a routine challenge and response, with both sides acting professionally. Where the voice came from, I have no clue - it seems to me that it would be suicidal for those craft to have broadcast such a challenge in advance of a planned attack. The voice almost sounds to me like a serviceman later joking about the incident. It is too comical. It sounds like someone watching the video and adding humorous commentary. That's my impression anyway.
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Another false flag event that has gone bad for Uncle Sugar
The government has done this many times in the past and Glenn mentions one, the Gulf of Tonkin. Another more recent false flag event 911 also has gone bad for the government as 911 will never go away from all the chatter that surrounds it, there are just to many things that do not add up and never will as long as the official story continues to expect people to suspend the common sense element of the equation.
This is what governments do and have all throughout history, they become corrupt to the degree that it destroys the country itself. That is where we are at it seems to me.
This government has become wicked and tyrannical and is rotten at its core, and you cannot believe anything the government says anymore about anything or at least I cannot.
Already there is evidence in New Hampshire of great voter fraud and the corruption of the political process there of not counting votes for Ron Paul as well as others that ran.
When convicted criminals run the companies that own the voting machines what else would you expect.
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A little more about the Iowa incident..
I just remembered that the captain of the Iowa had the evidence thrown overboard.
Just like Pat Tillman's uniform and personal effects were burned shortly after his death.
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What saddens me
Greetings Annonymous,
"...On top of all that, a ship like the USS Port Royal is commanded by a very senior captain with a minimum of 20 years of experience, often much more...."
I'll tell you what saddens me...
Clearly this very senior captain was not NOT feeling any threat from those provocative boats.
He did not fire, even a warning shot. No indication of loud hailer or siren signals
A tense situation was handled calmly and competently ending in no shots fired, no casulties, and no damage to ships of either nation
By the time the media was briefed, this minor incident with no shots fired (hardly equal to any number of Russian Trawler enroachments of the Cold War) was the fucking Battle of Jutland!
That is bullshit and makes me sad and angry
Ihat any member of our Armed Forces played along...
Enjoy the journey
WarLord
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Anonymous @ 3:38
That said, the tone of both the article and most of the subsequent comments truly saddened me.
Please post again, so I (perhaps we) can understand. My understanding is that, whatever the incident, the behavior of the Pentagon and the subsequent behavior of the press is very much in question. I truly don't see how that disparages the behavior of the crew of the U.S.S. Port Royal. It does impact on the Navy because the Navy was party to the Pentagon release. And it impacts on the reputations of those in the press who failed to question a story that was being told long after it happened, and being characterized as the most serious incident between the U.S. and Iran in over a decade. And it subsequently appears to have been doctored.
I so far haven't heard people alleging that the people on the U.S.S. Port Royal were responsible for that.