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Monday, December 31, 2007 12:00 AM

Michael Bloomberg: Trans-partisan savior

Who thinks a third party candidate like this is a good idea, and why?

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Monday, December 31, 2007 10:17 AM

@ Bucky1

It's absolutely true that the Neocon influence has infected and infiltrated the Democratic party, and even to this day Dems are not opposing it strongly enough (if at all). That is why I'm wondering why Glenn would hold up John Edwards, who was not vocally anti-war in the past, and who gladly went along with the Neocon plan in the Senate, as favorable to Bloomberg. If Edwards can change his views on Iraq and our Middle East policies, why is it impermissible or improbable for Bloomberg to do the same? I suspect Glenn is more of a die-hard populist than anything else, and he's afraid of Bloomberg's presumably corporate-friendly, "elitist" candidacy eclipsing a more-populist Democratic candidate more than he's afraid of a Neocon-foreign-policy threat.

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:19 AM

@ bucky1

Teddy was a Republican before he was a Bull Moose. I don't think he was ever a Democrat. Perhaps you need a narrower tar brush, or more respect for history?

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:27 AM

@WT

WT: "...I don't think he was ever a Democrat. Perhaps you need a narrower tar brush, or more respect for history?"

No, just wrong Roosevelt. I dislike both, of course.

It is odd that an LBJ worshiper such as yourself would *ever* talk to others about respect for history. But then, warmongering socialists never were afraid to try to "rehabilitate" those they love, now were they?

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:29 AM

Moo cows unite!

In a effort to raise awareness and build grassroots support for wholesome 'food for thought' there was a group formed called "The Organic Valley Family" of farms and they developed a project called Cows Unite.

Its "Bovine Bill of Rights" to counter death: chemicals, synthetic hormones, pesticides, antibiotics, and corporate-killer GM feed for HUMANS and BOVINE!

Hay, better for horses and cows? www.cowsunite.org

Hey, we will be okay...Let's sure do some hopping. moo.go.gops.soon.

What human utter cow-flop failures......................moo........................!

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:33 AM

bucky1 Hollow Farm.

Yep. A flop.

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:36 AM

A Response to Glenn's post from a draft Mikey club

Glenn,

I found this post over at a Draft Mikey website.

Is this an attack on civil liberties, or is this a chance to improve an already creaky system (like Social Security cards) that is taken advantage of on a daily basis. It is funny when you consider that everyone that is born in America immediately gets a Social Security number, but this other form of identification using biometrics would be a bad thing because it would reduce civil liberties?

The person writing the post goes on to trivialize what the ramifications of this biometric system true implications might be.

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:37 AM

@ bucky1

Yes, it was the kind of error any idealogue might make in the heat of battle. In truth, both Roosevelts were more complex figures than you make them out to be, as was LBJ. TR loved war because he thought it was invigorating and manly; he hated banks and corporations because he thought they weren't. He was also a racist and an imperialist, and I suspect he wanted National Parks largely because he thought real men needed places to shoot grizzly bears. Nevertheless, we benefit from some of his policies, even if we're forced to condemn the reasons behind his support for them.

I wasn't trying to embarrass you, bucky -- I'm not at all sure that's possible -- but I wouldn't think it amiss if you reconsidered some of your certainties from time to time. Perhaps some might be as faulty as your recollection of TR's party affiliations.

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:38 AM

Rats!

For some reason my link didn't show up in my post about the Draft Mikey website. Here you go:

http://www.uniteformike.com/2007/12/31/draft-mike-bloomberg-for-president/greenwald-proves-the-point-for-why-bloomberg-for-president/

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:41 AM

the paranoids rule

Leadership in this society here would naturally fall to the paranoids...But you see, with paranoids establishing the ideology, the dominant emotional theme would be hate. Actually hate going in two directions; the leadership would hate everyone outside its enclave, and also would take for granted that everyone hated it in return. Therefore their entire so-called foreign policy would be to establish mechanisms by which this supposed hatred directed at them could be fought. And this would involve the entire society in an illusory struggle, a battle against foes that didn't exist for a victory over nothing.

- a psychiatrist commenting on the functional society developed out of an abandoned mental hospital on Alphane Moon, in a far-off solar system.

Philip K. Dick, 1964 "Clans of the Alphane Moon"

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:48 AM

@ Timberman

WT: "... I wasn't trying to embarrass you, bucky -- I'm not at all sure that's possible -- but I wouldn't think it amiss if you reconsidered some of your certainties from time to time. Perhaps some might be as faulty as your recollection of TR's party affiliations. ..."

Yes you were, no need to lie. There was no "heat of battle", and I typed Teddy rather than Franklin; have a good time with that.

I doubt seriously you even understand my position on most issues; certainly you never have shown understanding. But then, you always get in little bigoted shots at "libertarians" when you do not even know what it means --- or never show that you do.

In the last half of the 20th century many people who claimed to be 'liberal' were not; nor are they today. You are a prised example of this phenomenon.

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:53 AM

Can Former Senators Boren and Nunn deliver Oklahoma and Georgia for Bloomberg?

Sure they can, the day after pigs learn to fly. When Gore lost in 2000 I saw that the Democrat-trending states of West Virginia and Louisiana went for Bush, and realized the chance for a ticket with a nonChristian on it was, in this country, not yet.

Why would Mike Bloomberg run if not to spite Giuliani, for whom he has a widely known contempt? The only benefactors besides a future President Romney or Huckabee from a Bloomberg third party run would be aspiring campaign workers and ad revenue hungry media outlets. I'll bet they are busy flattering Rich Mike every day now.

Why doesn't he spare himself the expense and embarrassment and just contribute to Mr. 9/11 In Drag's primary opponents? Then he could hold a series of lunches with Rupert Murdoch, Joe Lieberman, Norman Podhoretz, Daniel Pipes and the Kristols and listen to them flatter him in person.

Monday, December 31, 2007 10:58 AM

Gads.

People.

To underscore just how anti-people modern GOP modern politics is, we should note that the United States now has nearly twice as many people incarcerated as the number of farmers. "A"

About 2.5 percent of the population is in jail, whereas only about 1.5 percent of the population is farming. The organic grower is not even measurable?

Doesn't it make a bucking Texan Rodeo audience proud? Are we exporting death-policy?

A just wanted to throw a ot-sideline politics, there, just in case we people are snoozing!

Che Pasa?

Sure. We snooz!.

Attend a bucky1

Oh, ah! A rodeo!

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