Or making money just fine?

War Prophets always wanting some country bombed...

isn't a virtue in a world where being stupid wins elections.

Thanks, Glenn, for exposing these dangerous lunatics -- over and over again. As many times as it takes!

Somehow, it was decided in our political establishment that being completely wrong about the worst strategic disaster in our country's history -- the invasion of Iraq -- is not a cause for any diminished credibility at all (and having been right is no cause for enhanced credibility). Even after the invasion of Iraq, our Hiatt-modeled political establishment even proceeded to smear and target those such as Mohamed ElBardei who were clearly proven right, as though being right was a crime.

It's actually worse than that: the more wrong you were about Iraq, the more you are trusted on Iran, and vice-versa.

Which is a perfect illustration of the single most annoying of Jesus' parables: the Prodigal Son.

I've heard the most learned and articulate of ministers attempt to explain this one away, but the bottom-line lesson can't be denied:

The more you sin, the greater will be your reward when you return home.

For the Foreign Policy Establishment: the more wrong you are in defending the fallacious Establishment Line, the more we will praise and support you for defending the next fallacious Establishment Line.

Broken?

Or making money just fine?

Are Joe Lieberman, John Bolton, Fred Hiatt and Bill Kristol "making money" off the war? Could you say how they are?

Maybe there are other motives besides $$$$$$$$$$$ why people urge on worthless, unjust wars based on falsehoods. Or does it have to be just One Reason that Explains Everything?

How did that NIE on Iran get out before Cheney could stop it? Has the guy lost his touch? Fallen asleep? Died?

Serious, I can get behind. What could be more serious than randomly sown death and critical injury.

Respectable - not so much. But we still have plenty of work to do.

Who is keeping these continually wrong people on the payroll?

Why do they still have cache when they've called it wrong so many times before?

Why are they're voices still the only ones being put through the megaphone?

thank you, glenn.

what does "war critic" o'hanlan say?

But I entertain an even darker suspicion. It is that the intelligence community, which has for some years now been leaking material calculated to undermine George W. Bush, is doing it again. This time the purpose is to head off the possibility that the President may order air strikes on the Iranian nuclear installations. ~Norman Podhoretz

So, as Nuke ‘em Norman sees it, this NIE is really a “conspiracy” by the pantywaists in our intelligence community to undermine our great leader Bush and his heroic efforts to save us from Islamofascism.

Once you take away the immediate “fear” that these guys have been promoting for years, their arguments melt into a mush of macho conspiracy theories by people who have never been right about anything.

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I specifically remember the Fred Hiatt piece. I was at the gym and read it in between sets. I swear- it so angered me that I nearly pulled my groin. As someone who has followed the writings of Gordon Prather over at Antiwar.com I knew just how chock full of lies the Neocon rantings on Iran were. And I knew their history with El Baradei.

It should also be noted that just about around the time of the Hiatt piece the Times also published a lengthy but more oblique hit job on El Baradei on their front page- basically casting him as a comic figure puffed full of self improtance and somewhat of a flake.

Will this serve to end the guest spots on the news shows for the Kristols and Krauthammers of the world? Not in the least. Being spectacularly wrong (actually- being spectacular liars) gets one more gigs as Wolfowitz recently found out when he was hired to actually consult on? WMD issues by the Bush White House.

...but what's the metric behind calling this the worst strategic disaster in our nation's history?

What's interesting, and even encouraging, about the NIE release is that there is evidently a substantial faction inside the intelligence agencies and the military that has so far managed to leak and foot-drag the war party to a standstill.

The inertness of the press and the political 'opposition is being exposed and analyzed by Greenwald in frightening detail. But some brilliant internal gaming is going on, and may well succeed in running out the clock. Who are these people? There's a huge story here. Perhaps some of it will come out after the next election.

Owls hoot when bears drop a poop in the Halls of Capital Hill.

The neocon is not conservative. No.

They write with a load of chicken-crap,

and stink of filth in their dirt-britches.

Yup, that's correct - these fools made monstrous errors, the consequences of which have been incalculable suffering and despair for thousands of innocent people who never wished us any harm. That's right.

Yet, there they are, still in their respective positions - reporting BS, agitating for more conflict, more killing, abusing superior minds such as El Baradei's - dude is an Arab/Muslim anyway, who can trust what he has to say - circling back to that overt prejudice we were talking about just yesterday.

Here we are, once again, lamenting it all, with no apparent means for us to change a damn thing about it. By "us", we're talking the majority in this country that believes we've been lied to, and manipulated to an unprecedented extent to go commit crimes, yes, crimes - there is no other word for what we have been doing.

As if to continue to set the dictatorship tone - a big "fuck you all" to all of us, here we have Wolfowitz (!!!) being rehabilitated back into State as "Arms Control Advisor", no less. In what real democracy does this sort of thing happen?

I mean, this class of people seems to get bolder every day, they feel they can (and do) get away with any old BS, over and over and over again. There is never any price to pay, just like in any miserable dictatorship, they are immovable. All we , the people, can do is moan and basically gossip about it, just like in any miserable dictatorship.

I sincerely want to hear from lawyers or any other relevant profession. Tell us, please, how do we go about reversing this situation, what tools are available to us, please, tell us. There's got to be something people of good will can do. After all, this is supposed to be a d.e.m.o.c.r.a.c.y.