First. Winter Spaghetti Squash is so delicious. The texture is like spaghetti. Put some tomatoe sauce and Romano cheese and guest would never know.

a Senator's legal aide secretary hung up on me once. "Count the losses and drop it!" That was the exact words. No!

Meseems to believe the weaselly go running around and around the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the bushy tail wiggly-woo neo-neon's tales...crew. Let's all do the wiggly-woo?

Wiggly-woo, wiggly woo, all can sing the wiggly woo crew candy be subdued and 'go-under' and do a wiggle-room in a romper-room. But no more...huh. It's a child song. edit? delete. ok.

But I count it a sheer pleasure to read here. Inspires hope.

I'll go now. I'll sing, 'skip, skip, skip to my loo with___ ' and I'll go and shad-up. okay.

Demand truth! Hang up on ya-gag-ya!

Call 'um back up 1,001 more Times.

The damn Times magazine is Shameful!

I believe Mr Klein established firmly his non-honest-broker bona fides years ago when he flat-out lied and repeatedly lied about his authorship of (what he alleges to have been) the Clinton '92 campaign roman a clef. Once a schmoe, always a schmoe. Perhaps Mr Stengel needs a public reminder of the sort of pre-impeached journalists he retains.

"I spoke with some of those staffers on the day I first wrote about Klein's article. They were livid about the flatly false characterizations from Klein about their bill. I tried to get them to issue statements, and they didn't seem to want to (which I found both annoying and revealing - why shouldn't they protest publicly after being smeared like that??), but some did suggest they would contact Klein. I have no idea if they did." -- Greenwald

Flip the coin & do you think for a second that Republican staffers would even hesitate?
Unbelievable !! -- garyb50

Republican staffers would have marching orders to act upon, toot sweet, and act they would -- as loudly and smugly as possible. It all comes back to craven, inadequate Democratic Party "leadership". There is just no polite, but still accurate, way to put it. If the Democrats troubled to defend their public image the newsweeklies would curb their pets.

Joe Kline writes an article full of errors, which falsely smears the Democrats.

The question is what is the Democratic party and leadership going to do about it?

Mr. Greenwald,

Although I agree with you as to the substance of Ms. Painton's response to Ms. Hamsher, it looks like she left herself some weasel-room before she hung up on Jane. "That assumes that there are errors" is not an explicit denial that there were, in fact, no errors in the article. I agree this was the clear implication and only emphasized by immediately hanging up. However, I smell a setup to trying to establish her denying she ever said that the article was actually error-free. Maybe I'm just jaded from the aftermath of the Gonzalez and Mukasey hearings.

I pray (Cicero) no one's hands get nailed to the Senate door. No.

The neocon is so weak they are crapping in their pants with Fright.

This is a different era.

Someone, somewhere, knows who that source is.

Most likely, neither Painton nor Klein will say who, nor will the source be likely to come forward, but...

I would bet that there is someone else who knows who it is.

Glenn, if you and Jane can be tenacious and resourceful enough together, you may be able to come up with the name yourselves. (Just a little original, investigative reporting...)

It would be most revealing to know who.

...what about starting with any "known" sources that Klein has been "comfortable" using in the past?

I just called the number for Time that was posted earlier in the letters section. I got put through to his office and while I was being connected, an automated voice system said that in the future I could dial Stengel's number directly at 212/522.4747.

Keep those lines ringing, folks.

As always, Mr. Greenwald, thank you.

Here's my note to Time:

Mr. Stengel,

I've been following the story on the internet accusing Time/Joe Klein/Prescilla Painton/you of printing false information on FISA. I assume you're aware of Glenn Greenwald's resolve to follow this issue to the ends of the earth, and that it's been catching fire. If you continue to ignore this and hope it goes away, it's only a matter of time (ha) before you're lumped in with the laughingstock, Fox News.

If you agree to an interview with Mr. Greenwald and answer his questions openly -- and probably fire some people -- you could save Time's and your own reputation. I, for one, would love to see somebody from the mainstream media stand up and say (paraphrasing Mr. Bush to Mr. Blair), "I'm ready to stop this shit." Otherwise, good luck in your new position at Teen Beat.

PS I canceled my company's subscription yesterday and forwarded the story to many people, suggesting they do the same.

Dear Mr. Stengel,

I am quite interested in the process that allows and encourages the type of journalism performed by Mr. Klein and approved by Ms. Painton in the article on FISA. As a general statement, I believe such behavior is in the worst traditions of American journalism, and in the best tradition of Pravda and Izvestiya of the former Soviet Union.

If Time were to publish an expose on the process, repudiate it meaningfully, and focus on objective facts in future reporting (rather than some illusory notion of “balance”), I could be convinced to actually subscribe.

As it stands, Time is undistinguished from Newsweek, newspapers, and most TV since all are parroting the same sources and narratives with varying degrees of skill. As the focus on your publication (and Klein and Painton) indicates, the mediocrity of Time’s conformance to neoconservative expectations makes your publication the least likely to be considered serious and noteworthy by anyone using the most rudimentary of critical thinking.

Furthermore, it is shameful that those who read Time uncritically cannot find reporting of relatively low bias. It is a disservice to your readers, and to the nation.

I strongly urge you to reconsider your editorial approach, not only for your own conscience, or your profitability, but also for your country’s sake.

Sincerely,

Bryan Hayward