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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:00 AM

Demand answers from Time magazine

The Time editors responsible for Joe Klein's "Shameful Journalism" arrogantly refuse to account for what they did.

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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 04:06 PM

Be bop o in the hospital

Finally, I find that I am not alone. A lot of readers seem to appreciate bebop and it's constant stream of... jesus I don't even know what to call it. It ain't poetry and it ain't pretty. I for one have no time to "interpret" what I think is just some kind of borderline schizophrenic nonsense. He, or she, or just as likely, some kind of computer program designed to string together words almost randomly, seems like a gentle soul - so I wish this verbiage machine no harm. But I am tired unto death of having to skip over the millions of posts, which for me at least, add nothing. Nothing.

Prose, I suppose,

is easy.

But Be bop,

makes me...

queasy.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 04:09 PM

retraction....retraction....retraction

It is kind of amazing how J.K. in his last Swampland post cut off his head and stuck it a petard for you to wave around. I think just looking for answers to how his talking points made it into print is going too easy on the magazine. I mean you've got a factually flawed article on the political reprecussions of a piece of legislation that the author has admitted to having neither the time nor the expertise to understand. Not only does it mean the magazine corrects his errors, its also has to retract the postion of the article. And if the magazine has to retract the article then wouldn't the explanation of how it came into print come out?

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 04:11 PM

Oh Anonymous, you Bebop-o Hater

Some of us can think clearly right and left brain-style. Perhaps our corpus callosii are thicker and made of tougher stuff. We take our logical arguments with a mote (in the eye, naturally) of salt. It's the flavor you are missing.

I, like so many others, deeply enjoy the Bop's best beats. Many's the time I laughed out loud at some little riff, or just smiled (on the inside -- where it counts) at a particulary piquant phrase.

Oh Anonymous -- you ubiquitous ubiquity. It's language builds our arguments. Sometimes you swim in the poesy (and don't piss in it, you philistine!). Take that extra second to scroll down to the writer. I haven't read a single post by Shooter242 in over a year -- believe you me, it's a light load to carry.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 04:13 PM

WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE RIGHT WING MEDIA MACHINE?

Glenn, I write this reply to your post after a two-week plus absence from reading and responding to blogs. I am at wit's end about the state of this country, having just read Chris Hedges' article about the "empire" state of the U.S., and the undeniable fact of the precipice upon which we sit as a nation. I have only been getting my "news" from the MSM, which continues to be a megaphone for the far-right extremists who have been running this country for the last seven years. Since Al Gore is apparently not running for President, I don't even know who to vote for. Kucinich? Edwards? Obama? Clinton? There's no doubt that Hillary is a very bright person, but her politics smacks of, well, politics. She's the quintessential political animal, saying almost anything to get elected, and careful not to offend anyone with suggestions that might run counter to the theme-tested responses her vast staff has come up with. Al Gore's "Assault on Reason" was a very good book, but has not even made a dent in the MSM Right-Wing Noise Machine. As good as you are, without a television spot on NBC, CBS, ABC or Fox, you may as well be shouting into a bottomless well. Sorry for the rant, but, I'm in a foul mood....

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 04:17 PM

Paul Daniel Ash and others- and Cold d' Biers...

Please.

No problem.

But thanks.

C. Mosby, Hayward, JKalos, and many many more- gracious. I mention only a too few...and Cold'D' Biers, wow- there is a Belgium bier that must be sipped in moderation in a wide chalice like glass. It's a Leffe Belgian Ale. The Abbey crew who brew it mean no harm to 'our' society, or greater world.

No worry, and ignore, critics teach, and

those mean sneer kinda' people? O, seriously ponder, and maybe just ignore them.

There are sneers.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 04:19 PM

He calls himself an editor???

"Thank you for your email, I appreciate your comments."

How did this guy get the job of editing? Obviously not by EDITING. The above is a comma splice, which is a serious sentence error which any editor with any pride couldn't even TYPE, much less send out.

Okay, I know that's not important to anyone but us real editors, but it's just embarrassing to see that. I sure hope Time's actual copy editors who do real work get paid well to clean up his copy.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 04:19 PM

Sadness

I got back late -- out registering voters, which is one of those things, like hitchhiking, which goes better with a friend -- and so missed most of the thread. Catching up wasn't as much fun as I'd hoped.

Let me put it this way, anonymous. Even if you were right (you're not) and bebop-o were Carl Solomon, I'd be with him in Rockland. Damned straight.

Things aren't what they seem. This isn't just true every once in a while, it's true all the time. Bebop is a cubist. It has nothing to do with confusion, or even with sleight of hand. He really is able to see many perspectives at once. It's a gift, it's very rare, and when you find someone who has it, you should pay close attention, especially when you don't get it.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 04:23 PM

Matt Stoller has the insider response

http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2525

In the original version of this story, Joe Klein wrote that the House Democratic version of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) would allow a court review of individual foreign surveillance targets. Republicans believe the bill can be interpreted that way, but Democrats don't.

If the republicans believed that it could be interpreted that way, they could have raised that issue, and asked for clearer language.

Note that there is no claim that the democrats wanted to restrict surveillance of foreigners by the NSA. The only claim is that anonymous republicans told Joe that the language of the statute said that--and that Joe went with that false assertion from a self described republican source.

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