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Monday, November 26, 2007 12:00 AM

Joe Klein digs Time's hole deeper still

The still-uncorrected errors in the Time article are made far worse by Klein's ongoing deceit.

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Monday, November 26, 2007 06:36 PM

@shooter242

Klein's contribution may well be pointing out that no one is sure what the hell it means.

Brilliant!

Truly great; nearly Joseph-Heller-novel thinking. Welcome back, buddy. We missed you.

Monday, November 26, 2007 06:37 PM

Lets Not Lose Sight Of Who The REAL BAD GUY is Here

Joe Klein is a willing stooge, a buffoon, a tool. Flogging him is of no use. The real bad guy here is Time Magazine that:

1) hires an incompetent such as Klein to begin with

2) gives him direct access to 4 million readers

3) lets him publish any piece of trash unsupervised

4) leaves him to twist in the wind when his lies, incompetence, and unprofessionalism are outted

5) doesn't jump in to correct to THEIR readership Klein's lies, disinformation, and dissembling at the first sign misrepresentation and error.

Joe Klein is one of many, many dishonest destroyers of America that make up todays US corporate media. But they are just the bullets. The gun is loaded and the trigger pulled by others in the corporate board rooms, back offices, and republican institutions.

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Monday, November 26, 2007 06:39 PM

FISA: More Than You Want to Know

Glenn, Does your book have a name yet?

How bout "Everything you always wanted to know about warbloggers but were afraid to ask"

Monday, November 26, 2007 06:45 PM

Oh, B, lucky you!

I hang out with children today.

I have a new niece. She is a precious infant, so sweet. It makes me understand the depth of my investment in the future and the importance of what Glenn is doing here today.

I'm checking the Time schedule to see when a train departs to Ohio. You got a soggy cup? I'll appear with a jug of brew for two.

Soggy cups are waiting. Anytime. Especially if we can soak them in blueberry wine.

calm down, Pedinsksa. You a carnivore?

I am still learning 'calm', after all these years. Trust and belief are the keys. I try to only eat meat when necessary. ;->

Let's praise the truth and mock the Lie.

Those who follow the greedy go to a grave to rot.

As always, you see through the fog...

Monday, November 26, 2007 06:46 PM

About "Primary Colors"...

This from a man who explicitly swore on his "journalistic integrity" that he did NOT write "Primary Colors" (http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Colors-Novel-Politics/dp/0812976479/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196131190&sr=1-1). Funny, he couldn't even get that right. I took him at his word (first and last time) and never bothered with him since. Furthermore, I would factor that in to the "integrity" of any publication that hires him. Never did understand how he got another gig writing for anything after that...

Monday, November 26, 2007 06:46 PM

What does Joe have time for?

Joe only has enough time to accuse the Democrats of being foolish, and no more.

Monday, November 26, 2007 06:50 PM

primary colors...

is a truly bad book and i had completely forgotten that "anonymous" was joe freakin klein.

a mind is...

Monday, November 26, 2007 06:59 PM

Does it even matter if we read them?

They just can't bring themselves to respect their audience -- to the point that they are probably turning their backs on circulation-boosting, money making opportunities. All so that they can still be cordial when they bump into one another in line at Dean & DeLuca's.

-- Holly McLachlan

This became painfully obvious when Newsweek hired Rove after Time decided he was a legal risk they couldn't afford (remarkable in and of itself). The financial infrastructure appears to be secure enough that the 'paying circulation' is no longer a concern of merit.

Monday, November 26, 2007 07:04 PM

I'm approaching 18.5%.

gtomkins.

There is a boat-builder in New Brunswick Canada who left America during the Vietnam war. He was studying Medicine. You reminded me of this: He met a Lady there who said, "Do what you want to do. Don't be a surgeon just because of family pressure/prestige."

I've visited their Home Place. It's almost totally off the grid. Solar, wood, oil-lights, and he uses no electricity lights. A room is cozy. Alternative renewable energy sources are good kilowatts. He's not one to blame for a mountain being leveled, or a blubber whale being slaughtered for street lights.

His boat wood shop embarrasses me. It's in order. He can find a tool and keeps them sharp and oiled. He'll use beeswax when necessary. He uses a few diesel engines for 'serious' plane-wood power, but mostly all his wood-craft is hand labor.

He writes for 'Fine Boatbuiler' and a sister magazine 'Fine Woodworking' and loves/cherishes his privacy. If one visits you get to enjoy fresh made hot-toast in the morn laid on a wood stove to brown, and a staple coffee, home made beer... wood sauna baths. He's never regretted Not cutting into human flesh. His Lady Friend said, "Don't be surgeon, be a boat builder." He's excellent. Actually my son has visited his family more than mine and his Cornell friend was the acquaintance-connection. Those daughters sure need to be hidden in the Canadian woods...

The 'back to Earth' movement lured some fakes, but others, endured, and were influenced by Elizabeth and Scott Nearing from NYC. The Times then- late 60's especially, grabbed the attention of some hearty, questioning, good souls.

Anyway, He and his wife would blush from what I just said, but they have my praise and respect. The doors on his outside gates, and front-house door--shut tight, and latch with a clack that reminds me of Homer's writings. Inside, O, what warmth and hospitality! 2-hours solar for their computer.

Hush- I goes to snore Zea's logs. They may read here. I hope.

Monday, November 26, 2007 07:05 PM

A panther’s and eagle’s bliss

Sometimes a cigar is just a metaphor for a snake. Sometimes a metaphor is just a metaphor even if it lacks surgical precision, which is not a call for the 'stab in the back' that is unnecessary surgery, which is not a call for the violence of cutlery, which is not a commentary on the morality of eating meat, which is not a reference to oral sex...

Sometimes it is better to listen in metaphor.

Monday, November 26, 2007 07:13 PM

"Henry Luce founded Time"

Yes, but he wasn't insane right, and he also hired mostly centrist or liberal jounralists/essayists, because Luce famously noted that conservatives can't effing write. Whittaker Chambers was the first somewhat right-wing writer he hired because Chambers was brilliant and evocative, about politics and many other things. But then, Chambers was too "liberal" for Buckley when the latter founded NR. Chambers supported Ike, and the NR crowd wasn't sure Ike wasn't a Communist. So Chambers wouldn't let young Bill put his name on the NR masthead.

Luce-era Time wasn't crazy and Luce demanded intellectual heft.

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