"...I am small..."

...yes you are Joe.

Yes, you are...

is a question i have asked repeatedly, citing the contempt in which they are held and the ego that is needed to reach a place to be held in such contempt. i think glenn's articles are now uncovering the answer...it's all about the benjamins. not much different from the ladies in short skirts...except the ladies have far more integrity.

The key to Serious Mainstream Media success is not only to have the attention span of a bumblebee, but to induce the same state in your readers...

-- Democritus

They definitely promote a 'hive' mentality. Joe, and his ilk, are a very large part of that.

All good words of caution. It can be a fine line between tenacity and personal obssession (and all the other excesses you identified), but as long as there is an overarching, substantive point to be made, that's where the focus has to be, and here this is one, as you identified:

major illustration of the corrupt beltway media system that has brought us to numerous crises.

Inability to admit error totally unacceptable.

Expand from there.

Joe's left with only three options and none particularly good:

- he was easily duped

- he was complicit in spreading the lies

- he is ignorant and lazy

Come to think of it, it's probably some of each.

And as long as you continue the salutary practice of starkly pointing out that Joe Klein per se is not the problem, that he is one of its symptoms, and that this episode is merely a most egregious display of our diseased journalism en masse, you will continue to be doing the Lord's work.

Why Oprah Won't Help Obama

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1687526,00.html

One of the most popular women in the nation has endorsed Obama. This is of course bad news for the candidate. "Everone knows" that no one can take Obama seriously because he says things like we may need to go after OBL in Pakistan and he's clearly not reading from the same Good-Ol-Boy script that guides Time's coverage.

This is of course why its always necessary to put "serious" in scare quotes. Because if there's one thing that defines the "serious" position, that would be its basis in fantasy.

Don't get lost in anger or the details.

Keep it simple. Keep it honest.

Use links for the complex stuff. Refer to your previous posts when you're going over something again so you don't sound repetitive.

Always aim for the head, not the heart.

Never start a land war in Asia...

the. inquiring. mind. eliminated.

we wanted you to have. It seems rare to have a moment when a right-leaning publication and its stars are caught in such a quagmire(if Klein goes for deceit, how long til the other blowhards write similiar epitaphs). John Stewart had this kind of moment in a different medium(different significance of course) when calling out the boys on Crossfire. We can only hope the fates will be the same.

The sad thing about this is that at the end of the day, Time actually wins out. First, their resident bonehead gets his facts wrong resulting in a severe uptick in pageviews at Swampland (where they're selling Jaguars by the way)

Klein may win over the print readers (discounting those who read and yet still manage to think for themselves), but an uptick in pageviews at the website can only be a good thing as long as those viewers are compulsive enough to read the comments section, which is eviscerating ol' Joe like the decrepit animal he's shown himself to be. I think we've got a better-than-even opportunity here. Am I hallucinating?

Glenn, carve this turkey to the bone.

-- thelastnamechosen

Great minds think alike , 'n' all dat. ;->

It seems to me that it is not an extreme opinion to believe that some court should have some oversight before the government can wire tap my communications with my friends in Switzerland.

Ditto for me and my in-laws in the Czech Republic.

After being spanked like that, well, he might not sit down for a week. Heck, he might not be sitting at Time at ALL anymore, if Glenn keeps up. (I wouldn't mind that.)

Perhaps one of their competitors would be interested in giving this story the coverage it deserves? -- Joel_Grant

That would be lovely, wouldn't it? A true slagfest between America's bigger newsweeklies would probably boost circulation -- at least get people talking and providing a little free word-of-mouth advertising. But, they never seem to do it, except in passing and online. If the matter gets aired in the paper glossies it will be in some dry, arch paragraph in the likes of The Atlantic or some other commentary-upon-the-commentaries. Far from the mad crowd.

They just can't bring themselves to respect their audience -- to the point that they are probably turning their backs on circulation-boosting, money making opportunities. All so that they can still be cordial when they bump into one another in line at Dean & DeLuca's.

But I am not sure it represents progress.

The Bush Administration finally admits what we have been saying for years now -- that our presence in Iraq is permanent.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004772.php

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/04/10/21_war.html

(Three years ago, "Endless War" was an accusation; now it is a video game.)

And Joe Klein admits that journalism is unrelated to his job description.

One could argue that when the wolves feel comfortable casting off their sheep's clothing, the rest of us should be very worried.

You always say so much with no foul expressions. You are exemplary.

I did notice you misspelled pajama's. Perhaps Coattailhag will allow us all to have a kick-shoes off pj party? Pedinska says she has a bannana tree. Hag has pineapples. With some Wall-Mart plastic party boats we can have banana splits and sing: 'In Pajama at U.T. jamboree, we must not act too looney. The Times editor will accuse us of badmouthing the swamplands employees.' So- just hit hips with a tambourine.

The Salon liberal "stanloonist" can't be labeled looney fouls, now can we? patg, I wish I could be one person of a few words that flow from clean lips. patg, you seems one with no harsh vengeance.

Pedinska, I believe you grow a banana tree in your back yard. Just prove it with some ripe baboon for a ride in the plastic ice-cream boats. If not-you, you are to be selected to be the first to be thrown overboard to appease Poseidon, the sea goddess's, angry wrath.

Behave. YKW is awake late tonight.