Klein Resein.

It's truly amazing that someone in Klein's prominent position (widely-read columnist) can get away with something like this brazen. But it's even more amazing that Time is letting him.

Unless it's Time that has the agenda. Or maybe Time and Joe share an agenda. Or maybe Time figures JayKay can get away with this kind of crap because of his TV profile.

Christ on a biscuit, can't these fools fact check? Don't they have a lawyer on staff? On matters legal, one would assume Time has experts they can call. What if the experts just so happen to be GOP-leaners?

Keep digging and prying and pushing and prodding. You aren't just moving the issue, Glenn. YOU ARE MOVING THE FRAME.

I was doing pretty well, got some work done, got some errands run, got a little reading done, and then

"(ADD: about this minor detail of a bill that will never find its way out of the Congress)"

Apoplexy.

In the first place, as Glenn points out, it isn't a minor detail. In the second, Joe Klein is part of the reading material that feeds the people in the Capitol Building that they use to decide what the vox populi is. And the real constituents, the real people who's opinion should be consulted, are getting ignored and feeling very upset with Congress while these people are going around ignorant and passing judgment on anything and everything. It isn't up to Mr. Klein or Time Magazine to decide what bills should make it out of Congress, and his brand of cynicism about both lawmaking and the Constitution is a poor substitute for expertise. Perhaps he should try being a music critic. On second thought, we don't need his brand of cynicism passing for knowledge there either. Perhaps we need a place where jaded, cynical, past their prime press employees (I don't want to dampen any aspirations at Berkeley or Berkman by calling them journalists) can go. Maybe he can move in next to Inspector Clouseau's boss. Or find a rehab center/soup kitchen complex that serves his needs.

Joe, I shit in your general direction.

C'mon

I would hope you know me better than to think that's what I mean. I'm just saying that we need to be just as vigilant when the print edition DOES hit becuase I think its likely to need its own set of corrections.....

MORE than any other book, Richard Ben Cramer’s “What It Takes,” about the 1988 battle for the White House, influenced the way I cover campaigns.

That's a great book. I read it back when it came out. Amongst other details, it provides an early glimpse of George W. Bush (in the opening chapters, demanding a better seat at a ball game where his father is throwing out the first pitch). It's quite clear what a petulant, arrogant moron he was even back then. I'm still amazed at how the press transformed that zero into a "heroic cowboy warrior."

don't fall into the well laid traps of: 1)angry blogger; 2) personal attack; 3)obfuscation by legal complexity; or 4) the margianlized leftist ACLU pointy head civil libertarian.

I realize you're very familiar with all these, but, just don't get so in the weeds on the legal analysis that you hang yourself on the details or fall into traps.

Stay on the same message you started this on - major illustration of the corrupt beltway media system that has brought us to numerous crises.

Inability to admit error totally unacceptable.

Expand from there.

Nothing can save Klein and his enablers as "Time" except letting them off the hook. There is no question, no objective question, that Klein is absolutely wrong and that "Time" is letting that happen.

Perhaps one of their competitors would be interested in giving this story the coverage it deserves?

"And I shouldn't have to bother." is the rest of that statement.

Isn't this exactly the same kind of "elitist" behaviour that the right plasters on the left?

So, in addition to being a pathetically 'labelled lefty' that the right can count on to parrot the 'correct' agenda, Klein also becomes an example they can refer to should they decide they are displeased with his initial offerings.

You flabbergast me sometimes. I hang out with children today.

Thanks be there is someone who should be considering Law School. Greenwald should be a lawyer.

Glenn does not have neither the time nor the 'carver' background to 'slice' or lop-off body parts.

That's repugnant.

He only ask every concerned human to ponder, not be a butcher.

Now, I'm checking the Time schedule to see when a train departs to Ohio. You got a soggy cup? I'll appear with a jug of brew for two.

Let the pro-GOPs degrade. It will happen in due time. Be patient. Glenn will be on Time's case, okay- calm down, Pedinsksa. You a carnivore?

Stay away from DC's dreary White House mansions.

Be not daunted by wealth's lustre. Come meet be and be a hobo with a sorta gaudy splendour with me?

Let's praise the truth and mock the Lie.

Those who follow the greedy go to a grave to rot.

If they don't fess-up the Lie a body will get swallowed by worm-maggots. A nephesh soul goes promoted fast to Hades/ Sheol.

'um so vulgar.

okay? no tease.

no deceit. O, wine!

okay? no pomp, and,

I be there promptly!

Oh, ho. Let's don't,

but pretend we did.

I'm just saying that we need to be just as vigilant when the print edition DOES hit becuase I think its likely to need its own set of corrections.....

You're absolutely right about that. Any first-run correction or account will be strained, forced, problematic and will compound the problem. There's just a tendency sometimes (not on your part, but in general) to suggest that these sorts of controversies are always going to result in good things for "them" or that they won't matter, and I think it's important to focus on why that's not true, on how it can be harmful if pursued tenaciously and with the right focus.