Letters to the Editor
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Again though, Glenn, you're carrying on about what bloggers say
As if that actually mattered to anyone anywhere and had any bearing on the merits of those cases at all. If there was a court decision of some kind that came out with the same train of thought you talk about re: Powerline and Glenn Beck I'd be interested. But at best this is all just a grown up version of Facebook bullying and shit talking. You picture yourselves at the sharp pointy end of the spear of the vanguard between freedom and the 9th circle of Hell. I'm afraid you overestimate your power, significance or importance. I had the news on today - the cable news we all like to throw rocks at. There was a piece about dieting, one about if your kids sleep more they won't get fat, several dozen weather reports, some sports, a few hours of corporate voyeurism about who the next CEO of Citigroup will be.
Wow. Right up there with Tom Paine, Addison and Steele, Jacques Barzun, Lewis Lapham. Pinch me, I'm blogging at the grown up table.
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@LWM and Bebop re: Garry’s comments
Thanks for the additional insight to that already provided by Glenn. Only you Bebop and other war victims can feel Garry’s pain for us. Some victims take longer than others to realize remaining a victim is a mind trap that consumes the soul and takes away precious parts of life never to be found or rewound. Victimization consumes a lot of energy and resources, When regulars on UT have revealed some major personal challenges they have overcome and maintain at least a pessimistic optimism for every problem and the future, they set a model that I wished other victims would learn from and follow.
That old proverb, “Don’t cry over spilled milk,” when modified to “Don’t cry too much over spilled milk,” applies here.
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@ Nulla Sallus
Well, you know, the ninth circle of hell kinda creeps up on you, as all sorts of testimony from the early days of the Third Reich -- prior to Kristalnacht -- or the early days of the Third International -- prior to the purges -- makes abundantly clear.
The ignorant, brutal thug wannabes of the Republican 24% are pitiful; all of us civilized folks rightfully find them a joke. Until they have the sanction of the state, that is.
I appreciate your wit, but your smugness I could easily do without. You aren't any more prescient than the rest of us.
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When do Republics fail?
Perhaps when too rich? Those in comfort seek to protect it more than that which enabled it to be? I.e. I got mine!
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Sometimes it does matter
As if that actually mattered to anyone anywhere and had any bearing on the merits of those cases at all.
You know what, you're wrong.
No one cared about the US Attorney firings except some liberal bloggers. They kept digging away and lo and behold, Alberto Gonzales and a number of other political hacks at Justice are now gone. I can't help but wonder if Rove is really a side benefit of that.
The MSM didn't care about the story at all until it had already been researched the hell out of. The naysayers at these blogs would say it's boring, shut up, Clinton, blah, blah, blah.
Frankly, I do care that there are educated (lawyers, for God's sake) people out there advocating the anti-American things they are spewing.
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@AnnieW
You're right, they do matter. The right wing courts them. They skew the whole conversation rightward. They represent the last 23%.
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Where is St. Dennis in all this?
One serious constitutional issue we confront right now is the blurring or even crossing over between what should be executive power and what should be legislative power. Rep. Ellison can cry all he wants about these detentions (and I hope he continues to cry for them from his safe Minneapolis seat as long as they're in prison), but he has no power to free them.
Meanwhile, we have Rep. Kucinich, who has the platform of the seemingly endless series of Presidential debates, where they spend most of their time debating health care and other issues that are beyond the President's power. He gets some free time to say what he wants in each debate, and while the freedom of these journalists is something the next President can accomplish at 12:01 pm on January 20, 2009, with the stroke of a pen, why isn't this something he talks about?
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W.T. and W.T.
Thanks for that...
I'm hurting too...
GO no want No want sick-attention.
I want peace too, so, I go for awhile.
Honest. I thank you.
I need to go away for awhile, but as we use to say, "It don't mean nothin'". we be okay.
Honest. We all need to get away from war's hate. If I'm not here, maybe just am I, thinking of you all's, elsewhere, and maybe doing something as innocent as chopping wood, listening to ducks, seagulls, and counting ocean waves.
No problem. I ache with Garry Owen's, and all returning soldiers, and also: the Middle Eastern war victims.
To hell with George W. Bushes sleeze that surround him.
No worry about those who long for peace.
O, Woe unto pro-war kill-ilk types. I'll be back? I hope.
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One more thing
There is a reason that Glenn Beck gets paid $50,000,000 for a five year radio contract and it's not because of talent or demand.
It's to get his ideas (and people like him) out there, it demarginalizes them.
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W.T. and R.M.P. etc.,I meant.
too much goofy.
no mean nothin'
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Don't succumb to fear...GWB is not ZEUS
RE: "I agree with my friend, Rep. Barney Frank who said, 'In an ironic way it [impeachment] does George Bush a favor. He is losing the national debate on most issues, he is losing support among Republicans, and impeachment would almost certainly allow him to rally lots of Republicans.' "
WHAT??? Could GWB actually get more support at this time from Republicans? Are Bush and other Neocons considered untouchable omnipotents in the Dems' minds? Even the great and powerful Zeus was not omniscient or omnipotent. His power was not boundless and he had no control over The Fates and Destiny. Eventually, even Zeus was forced to face the consequences of his actions. Is American mythology willing to allow our current President greater powers than the ancients gave to Zeus?
This thread may seem inane, but think about how the Dems handle the Bush/Cheney ever-expanding policy of placing the Executive office above the law? Why are the Democrats so fearful? OK, sure, retribution has been swift and terrible for those that cross the Bush/Cheney administration, but that is to be expected when shaking down a power-out-of-control. Oversight is part of the job -- somebody has to do the hard work!
Our fore-fathers designed the WHOLE of Congress to be one of two checks and balances for the Executive Branch. Unfortunately, most of the Judiscial Branch is currently on sabatical from adhering to the Constitution. So, the only possiblity to return to the "rule of Law" is for Congress to take action against Executive lawlessness.
More simply, remember (or learn from Bush/Cheney) the American concept of acting as a team? Not as in "take one for the team" such as leaving Keith Ellison to hang out to dry. It means uniting jointly behind a goal -- for example, support what is lawful, thwart what is not! Is it that hard to figure...or do we have to rerun the clip with Prez B saying "Do they want WWIII..." to motivate you? (Of course, this could beconstrued as a new form of psychological torture for some...)
It is time for Congress to act as a unit and stand together for what is right and lawful. Losing political appeal to American voters by broaching impeachment is certainly NOT a relevant excuse at this point in time. The Dems could only strengthen themselves by adhering to the law and doing what is right.
CNN ran a piece tonight (11/5/07) suggesting that the Republican "brand" is losing its appeal with voters. The level of the neocons' unAmerican brand of lawlessness has grown to a point (perhaps nearing a tipping point) that most law-abiding Americans do not want to be associated with it. Why would Americans support the super rich getting richer and the rest getting poorer? Clearly, there is no benefit to the majority; only the upper 1% of the population has materially benefitted from the policies of this administration.
Putting impeachment back on the table will rally the support of thinking Americans against the excesses of this administration. That support would spring from the roughly 75% of Americans that admittedly do NOT support this administrations' acitivites. Come on Congress people -- are you paying attention??!!