Letters to the Editor
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If it walks like a canard and quacks like a canard...
Is "Hitler" any different than
The left leaning canard of smearing anything it doesn't like as 'neocon' or 'zionist'?
-- Nulla Sallus
Most of the neocons are self-described neocons. Most of the Zionists are self-described Zionists. Perhaps you're in an advanced state of denial -- or maybe you simply don't have a real argument.
Go make some left-leaning orange sauce, why dontcha?
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28 years - Revenge better late then never
CarolynC
I was aware of how we hurt the Iranians in the Iran/Iraq war, but my historical record stopped there. Thanks for another significant event in the history of that region and yes history and context is important, although apparently not to everyone.
What I was trying to not so cleverly express was that most Americans have forgotten and do not care about something that happened 28 years ago. But if I follow your train of thought, the goal really is to remind Americans of the event in order to fire up the anger mojo again.
Unfortunately the same people who would have such a goal, prefer the history leading up to the hostage crisis remain a lacuna (sorry Condi, couldn't resist) in the American view of middle east history.
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A label is whatever you make it
I don't actually hear people claiming to be baby eating Arab murdering Iran bombing zealots. That's more of what you folks call them. It's like calling someone a nigger (or a racist for that matter). It's not meant to enter into a discussion with them, but 180degrees the opposite of that.
But whatever, if all the people who you disagree with are baby eating blood matzah neocons, that's your deal, not mine. I've never met any. Point them out and we'll all know to stay clear of them. Thanks.
BTW don't waste your effort railing and shouting at me as if that anger accomplishes something.
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Mimoemo...
If we transported this particular Democratic Majority -- and any one of the front-running Democratic presidential candidates, for that matter -- back to...
For some reason, when I read that sentence up to that point, I flashed on "Galaxy Quest" ...perhaps because someone earlier on was asking if there had been any novelists writing satire on this maladministration's war yet ...perhaps because others had been discussing Heller's Catch 22.
There's something about the idea behind "Galaxy Quest" that seems especially relevant... that the "cast" of a TV show could inspire another civilization far, far away to actually implement the technology that they saw on the show, thinking it was history, rather than fantasy.
Would that we could have inspired an alien race to implement our raveling notion of a representative democracy... and rather than transporting our Democratic majority somewhere else, the alien race would instead visit us with their version of what our democracy should look like.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0177789/
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Do These People Really Think?
A child could predict the outcome of the U.S. bombing Iran:
1. Oil prices would go through the roof. Gas could go to $4-5 or more overnight.
2. Russia and China would react. Russia would do everything it could to keep us out of the Kazakhstan oilfields (and could deny us natural gas), and China could begin to call in its T-bills.
3. Iran would tie us up badly in Iraq in the way the incompetent American military is already accusing it of, and they have enough missles and other high-tech military weaponry to challenge us for control of the Hormuz Strait.
I can't believe anyone actually pays serious attention to Podhoretz. What a damn fool.
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Thanks Garry Owen
You were the first to alert us to Glenn being on the Randi Rhodes show on this or the other thread and I enjoyed it thoroughly. Hopefully this visibility will result in more visibility in the M$M and the further expose the politicization of our military.
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The only recent appeasment worthy of Neville Chamberlain...
...in retrospect, began with the words Tonight, for the sake of our unity of the people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession, and was delivered on December 13, 2000. It is important to realize that Neville Chamberlain style appeasement is only recognizable in retrospect, and is always the result of having wanted to promote harmony. If the neocons understood anything about complex systems, they would know this. Hopefully that speaks volumes about their abilities.
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@modesto
I can't believe anyone actually pays serious attention to Podhoretz.
Yes, it is hard to believe. But the man is Giuliani's foreign policy advisor. This is why Giuliani must not be the Republican nominee. And, if he is, then he must not be President.
If we aren't past the point of no return now, then a Giuliani presidency would surely take us there.
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@ Jeanette D.
The Repugs are salivating to take on Hillary and I am aching to see any Dem candidate take on Rudy. Without having to play dirty like the Repugs, the Dems have so much embarrassing facts to throw at Rudy and the Podman will make it even more fun. Just don’t tell any of the primary voters what I just said.
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@ anonymust
For some reason, when I read that sentence up to that point, I flashed on "Galaxy Quest" ...perhaps because someone earlier on was asking if there had been any novelists writing satire on this maladministration's war yet ...perhaps because others had been discussing Heller's Catch 22.
There's something about the idea behind "Galaxy Quest" that seems especially relevant... that the "cast" of a TV show could inspire another civilization far, far away to actually implement the technology that they saw on the show, thinking it was history, rather than fantasy.
Would that we could have inspired an alien race to implement our raveling notion of a representative democracy... and rather than transporting our Democratic majority somewhere else, the alien race would instead visit us with their version of what our democracy should look like.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0177789/
Oh, goodie. Thanks for the opening. I get to flog my GQ post today as well as my Heller post:
http://tinyurl.com/2a3wwq
Glenn can do the heavy lifting; I'll do the media allusions (and the pretty fishie pics too...)
Cheers,
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We haven't failed to notice
That it's the lunatic right-wing fringe, like NorPod, that's advocating war and genocide. Not the Iranians.
His "Hitler Hitler Hitler" mantra is more than just the usual right-wing fearmongering the chickenhawks use to cultivate cowardice, which is needed in the general population to successfully promote warmongering. That's the old Nazi tactic that Goering was so fond of.
But it's also the political version of projection, the attempt to cover over one's deficiencies and negative characteristics by attributing them to the intended victims: it's the Bushites who are the vicious fascists bent on world domination. They have said so. The Iranians very simply lack the capability and have no such imperial intentions. Quite unlike the Bushites, who have both and would really prefer it if you didn't notice.
Pubs have been getting away with this projection tactic with libruls and Democrats for years. Somehow the Democrats possess not only their own bad characteristics, but all the Republicans' bad chacteristics as well. Somehow it's not the neocons who are the radical right-wingers - it's those "leftists". Right-wing radicals really say these things. I kid you not.
Somehow it's the Democrats who are the 'fiscally irresponsible' ones, when it's the Republicans, and not the Democrats, who always run up the National Debt. Pubs don't run budget surpluses, but Dems do.
And so forth. There are many examples.
Not-so-strangely enough, it's Iran the Bushites have targeted, and not Pakistan, even though Pakistan is much more dangerous than Iran. The difference is that Pakistan is our "ally", while Iran has somehow neglected to give Bush's oil monopoly buddies control over their oil industries. If the Iranians just did that there would be no problem with letting them have The Bomb, just as the neocons have no problem with a long list of other ugly third-world types, in the Republican tradition. It's quite okay to be a repressive or brutal Asian dictatorship so long as you're Bush's "friend".
Neocons are characterized by hypocrisy at least as much as by lying. They try to keep a balance between the two. With projection they go all out.
NorPod's really no good by himself. He should think about getting The Klan or some skinheads to warm up for him.