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Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:00 AM

Col. Boylan's denial

A response to the first clear denial of e-mail authorship from Gen. Petraeus' spokesman.

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Tuesday, October 30, 2007 05:03 PM

This is not a newspaper or magazine

This is not a newspaper with a limited front page or magazine with only one cover story or a newscast with only two minutes worth of headlines.

This is a blog, and **every** subject from Commander-in-Chief Bush to Lt. Col. Boylan can be pursued,

**simultaneously**

subject only to the limits of energy and time of the owner of the blog and its readers.

In the spirit of "Never Again", every atrocious conduct of this Administration, no matter how small, will be documented and be findable on google into Internet perpetuity.

Despite Egypt (Iraq?) Steve's objections.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 05:39 PM

Where's Petraeus?

Petraeus needs to put an end to this, as it is a continueing stain on the military, on the US, and on himself. Will he betray us?

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 05:45 PM

continueing

Pardon me, continuing. Carry on.

Just want to mention that my spouse is affiliated with community college administration. I have suggested that Glenn's writings should be required reading as examples of clear, precise and logically presented pieces. Thank you, sir.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 05:59 PM

Stephen needs a nickname; I suggest "Cheetohs"

Col. Jerry "Cheetohs"* Boylan.

Yes, it has a nice ring to it.

* As in:

"Hey, Mom! Bring some more Cheetohs down to the basement, wouldja? And a new keyboard. This one's all sticky..."

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 06:28 PM

Just wondering...

Now that the M$M, in the form of Safire, has officially put Petraeus into consideration for Vice President, isn't it possible that Petraeus has been given an RNC email address? And/or, could Boylan now have one? I doubt that there is a way to confirm this one way or the other, but if it could be shown, this would be much more evidence of politicization of the military.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 06:36 PM

@leo777

) insist on a face to face meeting to exchange the necessary keys for PGP....

You don't need to exchange keys for PGP. It's a PKE system.

... Once an email has been either forged or denied no further email from that address can be trusted.

False. As long as you're not blindly clicking "Reply to", and typing in the person's known e-mail addy, the network will take care of delivering to the real sboylan@mil.gov or whoever it is (whether that's the real addy for that person is a different question, but here where Glenn had old e-mails from him, we can assume it's probably correct).

And if someone is mucking with the "Reply-to" headers to point somewhere else (as some spammers do), that will show in examination of the e-mail headers.

Cheers,

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 07:42 PM

The most fascinating part of all this is....

Jesus. There is just so much about this that is fascinating.

I don't buy the "this is moving into obsession" dismissive bullshit. Boylan is clearly trying to intimidate the "press" and, in this case, a blogger/journalist. Dismissing it allows HIM to play this silly game.

I think it is pretty damned relevant when a military officer acts like a petulant, partisan, and obtuse child. Petulant, partisan, obtuse, childish military officers are pretty damned dangerous to our democracy.

Don't quit following up on this Glenn. This asshole is giving our troops orders.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 08:47 PM

The Military Point of View

In this ignorant world, the military would take this line of logic:

1. Positive public perception is part of the war effort.

2. People who criticise the war are undermining the war effort.

3. Therefore, part of our role in the military is to undermine those who criticise the war effort.

4. We treat pro-war media well and anti-war media badly because it bolsters support for the war effort.

5. Glenn probably understands our point of view, but his goal is to make us look politicised rather than acknowledging our legitimate war work of improving public perception. So we should not respond to him.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 09:22 PM

Your choice (according to the military)

Either you're a bootlicker or you're a terrorist.

Happiness is mandatory.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 09:52 PM

This is exactly what they said about Move-On's going after Betray-Us

This is a distraction from the real problems we face. We've got a president who orders people abducted and tortured, and who launches one illegal war of aggression and is plotting another -- and we're talking about a colonel whose main job is to type press releases, and who doesn't even have very much of that to do, judging by the extent to which he appears to be able to surf the web and send out anonymous emails in the middle of a war.

This is what people said about people going after anyone but Bush. What they utterly fail to recognize is that all of these people are in lock-step; they are an exact representation of Bush. Just as Pravda was a rubber stamp of the Soviet empire. Betray-Us, Boylan, Drudge, O’Reilly, Rice, Cheney, Bush - they are all part of one ‘truth’. They are holographic figures. Whatever one of them thinks, all of them think, do and say.

I was all for Move-On going after Betray-Us. I’m all for the blogosphere going after this Boyland shill, because what he says comes right from the lips of his commanding general and that in turn comes directly from the lips of our president.

Go get him, Glenn.

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 01:56 AM

The Real Thing

Let's look at the evidence:

1. All e-mails purportedly coming from Col. Boylan show the same tracking info as those acknowledged by Col. Boylan being from him.

2. Col. Boylan denies having written or sent the odd e-mail.

Probable explanations:

a) Col. Boylan misleads about the acknowledged e-mails.

b) He misleads about the e-mails in question [the supposed fake ones].

c) There is no Col. Boylan and your e-mail communications have been with somebody else entirely.

d) Col. Boylan is real as are the e-mails, which all originated from a computer that should be under constant vigil. He only did not physically write and send them. It was his valet, he just dictated them and told his valet to send them; so he never wrote, he never sent, he never lied.

Since I always assume the best of people, I cannot see how Col. Boylan is a liar, he is a distinguished military man, who is all about honesty. According to William of Occam and Albert Einstein this leads to the conclusion:

d) is the correct answer.

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 06:23 AM

Go Glenn

I cannot thank you enough for your unflagging determination and your patience. Stay with it, Glenn. It is a very, very important issue.

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 07:52 AM

Keep Boylan Glenn!

"Can we move on, now? This blog is a lot more interesting when you take on the big boys."???

Who does he think the "big boys" are? This topic is HUGE! Either Boylan is a ranting, right-wing, pajama-clad cyber-shouter, or our military's computers are completely compromised. One way or the other, something is seriously wrong. You go, Glenn!

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