Letters to the Editor
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BTW, mincer
Yeah, we all agree with you that torture is torture is torture.
We are all oh, so pro-torture around here.
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Aych
n) propaganda (information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause)
Silence is the tacit nod of defeat.
-- Aycharaych
Your extremely lame posting of a "definition" of propaganda, followed by your comment about 'silence' should cause you to slink away as you are laughed off the stage.
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Can we stop now?
In a narrower and more common use of the term, propaganda refers to deliberately false or misleading information that supports a political cause or the interests of those in power. The propagandist seeks to change the way people understand an issue or situation, for the purpose of changing their actions and expectations in ways that are desirable to the interest group. In this sense, propaganda serves as a corollary to censorship, in which the same purpose is achieved, not by filling people's heads with false information, but by preventing people from knowing true information. What sets propaganda apart from other forms of advocacy is the willingness of the propagandist to change people's understanding through deception and confusion, rather than persuasion and understanding. The leaders of an organization know the information to be one sided or untrue but this may not be true for the rank and file members who help to disseminate the propaganda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
Why don't you just tell us what you are selling so we can stop this frolic? It's really boring.
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L.W.M
it may be partisan and fail to paint a complete picture
If Hillary is the nominee then I think there is a good chance that the Republicans might indeed get 51% of the vote.
And no one has yet supplied that comprehensive list of the liberal federal level politicians who support ending the War On (some) Drugs.
That's all you have to do to get me to admit that I'm completely in error and abjectly apologize.
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Drat, I hit the publish button instead of the preview.
it may be partisan and fail to paint a complete picture
Perhaps someone could point out what details I'm leaving out.
All you have to do to get me to admit that I'm totally wrong and abjectly apologize is to provide the comprehensive list of federal level liberal politicians who are in favor of ending the War On (some) Drugs.
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Actually, Kitt
I'd like him to tell/show us (Watchtower Magazine, Scientology) what he's really selling.
If you "suggest" anything definitive or specific he denies it but he's already admitted he has an agenda. He just doesn't know or won't say what it is. No mystery about mine. Some may accuse me of being partisan but I've got more in common with a social democrat like Bernie Sanders or even Dennis Kucinich's positions and the Democratic party as a whole is far too conservative for me on most issues. It's a compromise and how can I be a partisan if I'm willing to compromise to some degree?
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Dude
All you have to do to get me to admit that I'm totally wrong and abjectly apologize is to provide the comprehensive list of federal level liberal politicians who are in favor of ending the War On (some) Drugs.
-- Aycharaych
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. What does this issue have to do with all the other totally false and misleading crap you have been spewing here? I'm sorry, you'll have to do better than that to stand out around here. We are all anti-torture and want to end the war on drugs.
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I'll even go a step further...
Provide a comprehensive list of the liberal politicians at *any* level of government who are in favor of ending the drug war.
It couldn't get any easier than that.
Liberals are so in favor of personal freedom, right?
Also, given that the great majority of arrests and imprisonments in the drug war are for cannabis, I would like to hear a rational argument why cannabis should be illegal.
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Please don't
I'll even go a step further...
-- Aycharaych
Unless you are stepping away.
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See ya!
Clinton Promises to End Federal Raids on Medical Marijuana Dispensaries
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2007/jul/18/hillary_clinton_promises_to_end_
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L.W.M
What does your link have to do with ending the drug war?
Ending raids on marijuana dispensaries != ending the drug war.
Please provide a rational explanation of why human beings should be put in cages for consuming or possessing cannabis.
If you cannot do that then all these liberal politicians who are so in favor of personal liberties are basing their positions on the drug war on sheerest fantasy.
What a surprise.
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Leahy on drug sentencing
The following is from a bill sponsored by Senator Patrick Leahy on prison reform, and expresses his views on non-violent drug offenders:
The Drug-Free Prisons Act of 2000 is a comprehensive new plan that offers grant support and that redirects existing funds to state and local governments that provide drug treatment and testing for offenders.
This bill would also reinstitute drug courts as a way to systematically deal with non-violent drug offenders. Drug courts are a more effective means of dealing with those individuals who have committed drug-related crimes. In a drug court setting, non-violent criminals would be sentenced to drug treatment and testing along with vocational services. Drug courts offer a substantial savings to taxpayers, by avoiding the costs of incarceration and providing an offender with the opportunity to turn his or her life around.
The problem, Aycharaych, is that, at least as far as I can guess from your numerous letters on the subject, you could give a rat's ass about the plight of people in prison. Your interest is in decriminalizing the use of drugs, specifically cannibis. The rest appears to be window dressing, a lot of feigned sympathy being used as a law professor's litigious argument to obscure the fact that what you really want is to smoke pot legally. Many people might agree with you on that here, but it has so little to do with torture that you fabricate a way to derail the thread to get to your favorite, and possibly only subject. There are plenty of liberal senators and congresspeople who are opposed to the prison system as it currently stands. Whether or not they agree with you about smoking pot is entirely a different issue. And the abuses in prisons are not generally for the purposes of coercing information, which is part of the definition of torture. Should the abuses stop? Of course. Should we stop worrying about black prisons until all pot smokers go free? No.