Letters to the Editor
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@bo
“Clearly, it would be beyond the pale to assume, on the merits, that reasonable minds can differ about a complex topic. And what fun is it to sit at your keyboard, behind the courage of your on screen persona, and concede that?”
Reasonable minds can and do differ on this thread. If you are talking about “reasonable” minds and are referring to the Warpervs and Their Battered Flock of Chickenhawks, reason, logic and accurate facts don’t play in the equation. The discussion has to be based on propaganda, fear mongering, repeated distortions and rhetorical nonsense based on made up or illusionary facts. If after reading the facts and arguments against the war discussed on Glenn’s threads, you still believe the Neocons and RWAs are reasonable, then there is no possibility for us to have a reasonable discussion.
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e_five
Even when asked point blank if he'd made a mistake in his first term, Bush couldn't think of one.
That's mostly 'cause he couldn't remember it.
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@ shooter242
It isn't pleasant to be a "hindsight hero," but it's astonishingly easy. Once you realize that everything Bush and the fear-mongering Right say is pretty much the opposite of the truth, it's like you've got a crystal ball. I never believed that Saddam had anything more than he needed to tenuously hold power, based on the facts, but when y'all started saying, verbatim, the same crap that Bush did, I knew we were being propandagized. Crudely.
And believing and repeating everything they say must be as embarrassing as it is frustrating, when it doesn't pan out, again and again.
Fearing "pain" as you do, and even more fervently, wishing it on others, is no way to live, and is montrously self-destructive. I choose not to.
You're simply not in a position to force your disordered beliefs on the rest of us, so you fantasize about a government, or a "terrist," that would do it for you. That's your privilege.
But it's just a tad authoritarian, don't you think?
What kind of country would you really like to live in?
What if YOU begged to differ with its policies?
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Katherine Jean Lopez
We must not be sexist here and exempt the girls from our "limp dick" colloquy. I'd love to see her multiple behinds renditioned to Baghdad and dressed up in camouflage fatigues (XXL,please) and made to go out among the natives to preach Bush's gospel. I wonder how long her singing nun act would last there? And Kate O'Byrne too.
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Shooter's wet undies
"The smart thing? You certainly have the right to an opinion that Bush should have put 300 million people at risk against the possibility that Saddam was bluffing.... but then again you have no responsibility for that particular gamble. In other words it's very easy to be a "hindsight hero" and complain that Bush did the wrong thing. OTOH if YOU were wrong, tens, hundreds, thousands, or millions of people would die. I'm glad Bush called the bluff."--shooter
Either you are just lying again, or you really do think Bush is god? We had intelligence telling us what was going on. Also, UN inspectors were in Iraq until we forced them to leave. To pretend that the whole read of the threat hinged on what the idiot Bush thought, and then told you, shows that you have no grasp of history or honesty or both.
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Some eedjit wrote (for the Nth time):
You certainly have the right to an opinion that Bush should have put 300 million people at risk against the possibility that Saddam was bluffing....
Quick! There's a 10^-270th chance the sun's gonna blow up tomorrow! What're we gonna dooooooooooooooooo????
... but then again you have no responsibility for that particular gamble. In other words it's very easy to be a "hindsight hero" and complain that Bush did the wrong thing.
Plenty of "foresight heroes", bucko. You and Dubya were not among them. So STFU, m'kay, cause you're all eedjits, provable eedjits, and have absolutely no credibility left. Siddown and let the adults talk. No point listening to you when there's plenty of people around that actually know what's going on....
Cheers,
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On Turkey, Kurds, Iraq and Iran
Also OT, but I just watched today's WH press briefing, and two interesting things I noticed.
First, WH press secretary Dana Perino would not acknowledge that the US's policy of waging preventive war without international approval, as manifested by our attack on and occupation of Iraq, effectively sanctioned any attacks by Turkey on Iraqi Kurds and the PKK in Iraq, as recent reports have indicated might soon happen.
And second, when asked by Helen Thomas (as the final question) what the administration's thoughts were on the Lieberman-Kyl amendment and whether this sanctioned an attack on Iran, she claimed to not know what this bill was, and when Thomas explained it to her, she said that she wasn't familiar with this and would have to get back to her on it. She abruptly ended the briefing and left. Strange.
This is not a good sign. Clearly, she's heard of this amendment or else she would not be fit to be press secretary. They're not THAT incompetent. So she lied, blatantly. The question is why. Is there something going on or about to happen vis a vis Iran that makes the administration not want to discuss anything having to do with it right now?
Also, John Conyers' house judiciary committee today refused to grant retroactive immunity from prosecution to telcos that might have assissted the government in illegal surveillance. Good for him, and them. If telcos lack a spine and/or conscience, let them be criminally liable for it.
Finally, Bush made a brief statement today criticizing Dems for refusing to extend the temporary FISA bill, and urging them to not pass a resolution calling the Ottoman Empire's massacre of Armenians during and after WWI a genocide. He didn't take any questions.
I wonder how any incursions by Turkey into Iraqi Kurdistan might complicate the situation in Iraq and any possible attacks on Iran. Clearly, Bush is concerned about this.
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From the mouth of a chickenhawk, pt. 2
I can do you one better, as far as sheer offensiveness goes. My younger brother, who in addition to being a big Bush/Cheney fan, actually resembles Dick Cheney, said this when I asked him how he felt (roughly a year into the war) about all the dead soldiers:
Well, that's what they get. At least they're finally earning their pay now that we're at war.
The utter contempt dripping from his lips would be hard to overstate and very upsetting to me, to say the least. But at the same time, very telling as far as neocon attitude goes. I told my sister later that it would have been justifiable fratricide if I'd have strangled him to death right there.