The wrong country.

are you an LGF plant?

perhaps an ADL plant -- "look at those jew-hating solon readers.."

Glenn, I agree with the goal of this post: to discourage the use of Hitler/Nazi references in political discourse.

Please read up (and back through the links) a bit. That is not Glenn's "purpose". In fact, a bit part of Glenn's actual purpose is to show that the ADL seems to have veered a bit away from its proclaimed purpose, and instead seems to have thrown itself into a bit more partisan activity.

If that's what the ADL would like to do, fine, but then out with it. To pretend to be taking a "non-partisan" high ground and to use the good name of the ADL for more mundane (and partisan) purposes is something that should be exposed if it is occurring.

Cheers,

This is why Glenn is getting under their skin. Whatever its position on Iran, the ADL isn't just another right-wing pressure group that can happily settle for being popular among "dittoheads" and viewers of Fox News. It knows it needs liberals and the mainstream media to regard it as credible and authoritative, especially on the issues at hand (like who's being anti-Semitic and who's dishonoring Holocaust victims). That's partly because of the nature of the issues it raises and partly because of the long history of exemplary leadership that American Jews have brought to liberal communities and causes. Liberal credibility is their armor, and Glenn found the chink in it.

Things are starting to turn. Joe Klein has also been remarkably testy over getting called out on his coy pseudo-liberalism, and for the same reason -- he wants wider credibility than you get once you've "come out" as just another righty pundit. We need to keep pressing the attack, driving wedges between these people and their winger friends.

[to Glenn]: Either you're channeling Mark Elf or you need to get help. 75% or more of your recent output is violently antizionist/antisemitic....

That you confuse the two shows that you're not particularly bright.

... It's no longer the label it's the sheer quantity.

That your numerical (and/or perceptual) difficulties tell the same story should come as no surprise.

Cheers,

Glenn, why not just post roughly as follows:

1. [Nazi-comparing quote by right winger like O'Reilly]

2. A statement to this effect: The ADL condemns this outrageous comment.

Just keep saying that the ADL condemns their speech. In fact, all of us should start claiming that the ADL condemned this stuff.

Let the ADL then decide whether or not to disavow the condemnations.

They need credibility with liberals

All very true, very astutue.

William Timberman posted this link on the last thread as OT, it is very topical here (link corrected):

http://www.prospectsforpeace.com/2007/10/ok_here_we_go_the_israel_lobby.html

I know. Shut up.

But 'they' seem to purport, between the lines, they still enjoy attending a pork barbecue. Evasive.

ADL seems evasive. GG seems to simply be straightforward and trying to be honest with a 'pure intent' to plunge to the depth...

O, maybe I am naive about a pork, poke, igor, a pig-in-blanket, but if a hoof makes a good swine soup, I'm not so sure.

A butcher pokes a pig and stuffs the meat into a blanket of dough for a meagre profit. Sausage. Linked meat. Obvious. A string of meat links.

Considering that: What does it profit if a man/ADL sell one's soul and waddles via a market-place like a swine-hog with the rich-poker folk-fellers?

I still say, "They (ADL) are hiding under a blanket and raking in, suckled, into a filthy dough-blanket. I think that. So I'll say it...

None knows when the pig or human will croak. It sounds allot like ADL's acting like a monkey mind. It seems ADL want a rich platter from rich, well endowed, notorious GOP "pig" contributors.

No, they were responding to sysprog's comment:

http://tinyurl.com/2ten2r

which Glenn linked on the main post.

The image of ADL staffers wading through pages of WinSmith, shooter242 and the FUDGE-PACHYDERM guy may be amusing, but it's probably fantasy...

Nice, dogged work, Mr. Greenwald. I loved that you tried to keep Foxman pinned down to the facts of the matter -- good, to-the-point questions that go right past Foxman's chaff he's throwing out.

He was on "Chicago Tonight" recently (October 1; this was about the flap regarding the book by Mearsheimer and Walt, and him pushing his own book, The Deadliest Lies) and did much the same thing, constructing a strawman he relentlessly battled, largely ignoring Phil Ponce's questions (although, to his credit, Phil Ponce followed up on his questions and tried to sound Foxman out on the issue, but Foxman clung to his talking points -- it was a kind of strikingly empty performance by Foxman).

I'm really curious how this pans out, whether you're able to get some actual answers out of him, or not.

to IaintBacchus,

If your first loyalty is to doing what's right, then you are not serving "two masters". I don't care how many passports you carry, when you do the right, just thing, you are a loyal American. That's how I define my patriotism.

So long as ADL is focused on fighting bigotry and working to keep the lessons of the holocaust alive, they are a credit to this nation. As soon as they align with a government policy, especially if it "defames" another people, then they are partisans and nationalists and their loyalties may be scrutinized.

To Gordon Wagner,

Not a fair comparison. Foxman's personal experiences set him apart from the two you mentioned. (I don't mean to belittle any black person't hurt over discrimination)

Here we go:

"I blame the Jews for everything bad that ever was, is, or will be, including the eventual heat death of the universe (if there is not enough mass to cause a gravitational collapse)."

Granted, it gets a little long-winded and obscure at the end. And can't possibly measure up to the level of intelligence of the previous comments:

"I really no longer understand why we allow them to live here as citizens"

and

"Clearly, we are planning to nuke the wrong country."

But again, this is my first time.