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Monday, October 8, 2007 12:00 AM

The ADL purports to respond again

Abraham Foxman sends a letter which, once again, raises more questions than it answers.

The letters thread is now closed.

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Monday, October 8, 2007 03:32 PM

Religion before Country

I'm 100% sure I'm going to be branded an "anti-semite" for saying this. I don't care. Anti-semitism is nothing but a whip used by groups like the ADL to flog anyone who isn't acting in the best interests of Isreal.

I am not an Isreali. I am not a Jew. I am an American. I spent 12 years in the Marine Corps defending America. I say this in all sincerity: The ADL is just one more right wing reactionary group that is in the buisness of putting the interests of it's co-religionists ahead of the interests of it's country. I have no doubt that Mr. Foxman carries dual Isreali-American citizenship, so I cannot call him a traitor to his country because he is acting in the best interests of at least one of them. But he and every other Israeli-fauxAmerican traitor to the US should be required to choose which of his/her two countries he IS loyal to and stop pretending to support the other. YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS.

The same goes for dispensationalist Christians who put Isreal's interests ahead of that of their country. You obviously want to bring about the end of the world and the fall of the United States government along with it. All you are really doing is ensuring that your country will be hated by every Musilm in the world for facilitating Isreals fascist (and yes that IS the right word, look it up) positions toward it's own religious minority. You are selling your country out for your religious fantasies and causing Isreal to become what it professes to hate.

It is 30 years past time for the US to addopt a middle east policy that is based upon rational thought and national self interest as opposed to the religious fantasies of a few religious fanatics.

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:33 PM

"But would jihadists with suicase bombs sacrifice the Palestinians in order to destroy Israel?"

Some of them would. Are the Palestinians Suni, Shia or someing else?

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:39 PM

Abe Foxman is in the same basket with

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They have a certain entertainment value. But they are not to be taken seriously.

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:39 PM

Mr. Foxman - Please Help Us Understand

"As a Holocaust survivor...who lost nearly all of his family to the Nazi gas chambers, the suggestion that I or ADL would suddenly hold back such criticism due to political or other considerations is personally hurtful and deeply offensive."

But you see, Mr. Foxman, Glenn has proven that you ARE holding back criticism. Since you obviously have motivation not to but seem to be unable to explain your actions, we are forced to come up with our own hypotheses.

What are some potential hypotheses? One is that you are being paid off, but I doubt anyone here thinks that's the case. The only really credible hypothesis is that you have sided with the political right in America and you are withholding your criticism out of a misguided sense of what is good for Israel. What else could it be?

Now please apologize to Glenn for disingenuously pretending that he hurt you or offended you personally.

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:40 PM

Is "dubious" the right term?

Foxman, backed by quotes from such dubious authorities as Dennis Ross, an ex-U.S. ambassador and a vigorous defender of official Israeli views, seeks to attribute something sinister to their motives.

Biased might be better because he does have foreign policy credentials. He's with WINEP (founded by AIPAC).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ross

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:43 PM

Neoconservatives

And their friends, radical militant Zionists, are characterized as much or more by blatant hypocrisy as by their imperviousness to reality and outright lying, the traits with which they're more usually associated.

Nobody seems to have noticed that many Palestinians, Lebanese, and Syrians are also Semites, which makes Zionists rather vastly more anti-Semitic than anybody they could smear. Zionists don't want you to notice this hypocrisy either.

We're still waiting for justice to be served on behalf of the victims of the USS Liberty, by the way. Zionist terrorist attacks that aim to exterminate Americans appear to be quite acceptable, as are ethnic cleansing, assassinations and mass murder of civilians and POWs, and just about every other war crime on the books.

This article merely scratches the surface of entire national policies built on nothing but hypocrises.

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:47 PM

"Anti-semitism is nothing but a whip"

Bullshit.

WTF is it with all these trolls saying either "there is no anti-semitism" and "everybody's an anti-semite?" Seems to me, if you have an IQ higher than that of warm yogurt, you have to work pretty hard at maintaining either delusion.

These people must live on Clif bars and Red Bull.

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:48 PM

Neocon wet dream

Israel has always been in a cold/hot war with its islamist neighbors since its founding. The genius of Osama Bin Ladin was to fulfill the neocon wet dream of officially enlisting the US government on Israel's side. Dogs, tails, hegemons, it's all there. In this context the Iraq war makes little sense unless Iran is also attacked. What chaos is that going to throw American politics into! Especially if Israel is then attacked by Iran The dominant line now seems to be that even though, as Sy Hersh points out, AIPAC has even more control over Democrats than Republicans, the Dems lack the "resolve" that the PNAC/Clean Break folks have. Thus the attack must be carried out before the election. This has the added advantage of rolling the dice on the election itself and putting Hillary in a heck of a position for which she has tried to prepare herself by voting for the latest Lieberman amendment.

The fun we are having with the ADL now may be put into an unfortunate perspective of insignificance soon.

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:49 PM

They read these

Hey, if they're reading the comments, here's one for you: answer the questions, or be exposed as yet another hypocrite.

I'm fine with it either way.

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:50 PM

@Kitt and @ifthethunderdont

It seems Mr. Foxman would also benefit from another part of the same song:

Couldn't you try just a little bit harder?

Couldn't you try just a little bit more?

Monday, October 8, 2007 03:57 PM

Reminder on why all this is important

I just watched an NBC TV report on the effects of violence on children in Baghdad. About half of all children in that large city have personally seen violence/rape/death and are probably suffering from PTSD. There is only one psychologist who was not trained in treating violence victims to try and help all these suffering children.

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