Compare and contrast:

• The United States should be wiped off the map.
• The regime currently occupying Washington must be wiped from the pages of time.

Do you begin to see the difference yet?

You think you're clever, but your analogy doesn't work. Washington is the capitol of the US; do you think Ahmadinejad and people with his beliefs accept Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? To Islamists Jerusalem is a religious fetish object, not the capitol of a foreign state. Come on.

Labeling has a powerful effect on the weak minded.

When you label something or someone you deny their humanity.

Try 'gooks' and 'VC' from vietnam and 'sand ni--ers' and 'towel heads' from the various Iraq excursions.

One of the best lines, to me, in any movie came from of all places 'Waynes World' when Wayne Campbell says 'label me and you deny me' apparently quote Kierkegaard(?).

The world is full of labels. I try to not use them when I can but even then I can feel the change in attitude towards someone when I label them 'stupid' or 'inept' or 'short bus'...

Bottom line is that the ADL and their related groups have a very high emotional impact 'brand' to sell. They have fought for full marketing rights to it as well.

Throwing 'anti-semite' or 'Hitler' around without their implicit approval meets with almost the same as a 'cease and desist' letter from a copyright holder.

It's a powerful brand and like all brand holders they have to watch out for imitators and those that use it inappropriately.

Looking at it from that angle makes the whole thing take on a huge ugly tint but slightly ironic that the marketers of their hate speak use the exercise of evil done to their people as a weapon against others who seek what they claim to represent. (Anyone follow that?)

It would seem like Hitler and the Nazi's were the best thing that happened to them and the reich wing of the republican party (ironically no strangers to fascism themselves).

I am a little busy today, but I do intend to respond to your comments to me in previous post. stay tuned...

Mr. Pagano aims to assert that there is no difference between regime change and genocide.

I don't aim to assert that, because that's asinine.

What's also asinine, as well as obscene and astounding, is your rush to assume that Ahmadinejad is talking about "regime change" when he calls for Israel to be wiped off the map. Yes that's what he said -- "wiped off the map" -- reflected in the speech transcript on his own web site, and reported by Al Jazeerah, the Iranian broadcast service and the Ethan Bronner article that Glenn mistakenly believes says the opposite. You'll also note that Ahmadinejad has had since late 2005 to clarify his remarks, if he felt they had been mistranslated. He has not.

So while I'm far more interested in Glenn's answer to this than yours, I might as well ask again: do you think falsifying Ahmadinejad's genocidal anti-Semitism has become a standard rhetorical tactic of the war-chary Left? If so, what, if anything, should be done about that?

Mr. Greenwald seems to be obsessed with all faults of Israel, any organization that defends the rights of Jews (even if it is incidental to the defense of all persons rights) and also seems to feel that Jewish orgs MUST police the use of the term "Nazi" by anyone who has nothing to do with their organization. At the same time he feels that any one who defends the constitutional rights of Jews in America or speaks at all favorably about Israel is a fifth columnist....

Funny you need to lie in order to attack Glenn. None of this is true.

... I suggest people read his entire bio on wikipedia to get a better feel for his thinking were you will find this

".....One of Greenwald's more notable clients was neo-Nazi Matthew Hale. Hale was eventually jailed and tried for solicitation of murder against Joan Lefkow, who had been the federal judge in the trademark case. ...."

Glenn didn't defend Hale on any criminal charges. His defence of Hale was as to his attempt to get a law license. Hale was refused a law license based on "his belief in racial discrimination (described as 'gross deficiency in moral character')." Which is another way to say that the Illinois bar didn't approve of Hale's political beliefs (which neither Glenn nor I approve of either). It's like the ACLU defending the rights of all Americans to free speech (including neo-Nazis and the KKK), which necessarily included the ones we least want to hear. As Voltaire purportedly said:, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Funny it seems that he doesn't mind some people using the term "Nazi" just the ones he feels shouldn't use it as an insult with out his permission.

Sorry, your facts are wrong.

Go figure out where this guy comes from (pardon the dp).

"Physician, heal thyself!" Sadly, it is you that needs to "figure out" where Glenn is coming from. Until you do, kindly STFU so you won't look like a clueless berk, m'kay?

Cheers,

For someone who's just "curious", you level some wild charges quite casually. If you've already concluded Ahmadinejad is a "genocidal anti-semite", a rather severe and, IMHO, flawed reading, then anything else Glenn says, or the evidence suggests, is automatically "minimizing or falsifying".

So, where you really curious or was this a rhetorical Q?

Yes, I'm really curious. I'd like Glenn to answer this, since he has now joined the ranks of those falsifying Ahmadinejad's call for Israel's destruction (apparently, at the cue of Walt and Mearsheimer, who do this in their new book about the Israel Lobby, which Glenn calls "important" and "richly documented").

As for the notion that my charge that Ahmadinejad is a genocidal anti-Semite is "wild" and "flawed", I don't know what to say. When a Holocaust denier seeking nuclear weapons says "Anyone who signs a treaty which recognises [sic] the entity of Israel means he has signed the surrender of the Muslim world" and calls for Israel to be "wiped off the map", I take that seriously. I don't call for war with Iran, but I don't race to minimize or falsify the plain meaning of words because I'm afraid they might lead people to call for war with Iran. That's dishonest, and covering up genocidal enmity -- directed again at Jews, no less -- is an obscene abdication of the most basic liberal principles.