Letters to the Editor
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its Tommydsz,
sorry I accidentally clicked the anon button
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Will the ADL condemn the CRIF?
Everbody is getting in the act...
So Hitler was bad, but Dr. Ahmadinejad is worse because he will have the bomb? If he gets it, and if he wants to commit personal and national suicide by using it.
PARIS (EJP)---The head of CRIF, the umbrella group of French Jewish organisations, has called on political leaders to adopt a “tough stance” towards Iran.
During a meeting in Paris Tuesday night to debate the Iranian nuclear threat, Roger Cukierman compared the Iranian president to Hitler.
“Today, a new Hitler is born. His name is Ahmadinejad,” Cukiermans said. “At the Shoah Memorial you can see and hear Goebbels, Ribbentrop and Hitler express the same hatred, the same fantasies, the same slanders than Ahmadinejad in Tehran.”
“Ahmadinejad is the new Hitler but there is a difference between them: Ahmadinejad is about to get the atomic bomb within 18 months or two years,” he added, to great applause.
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And of Course the ADL will be Condemning Newt?
Newt Gingrich: Iran’s President is the New Hitler
Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich says that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is as big a threat to global security as Adolf Hitler was in the 1930's - and he's urging President Bush to do everything possible to overthrow his regime.
"This is 1935 and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is as close to Adolf Hitler as we’ve seen," Gingrich tells Human Events. "We now know who they are," he added. "The question is who we are -- are we Baldwin or Churchill?" - referring to the two British leaders at the time who disagreed over Hitler's intentions.
Like the top Nazi, Ahmadinejad has openly urged the extermination of the Jews, saying in October that Israel should be "wiped off the map." In recent weeks the Iranian madman has also repeated questioned historical reports on the Holocaust, claiming they were likely exaggerated.
He goes on to say, "I will just say flatly, our objective should be the systematic replacement of this regime," the former top House Republican told Human Events.
I dunno Newt sounds a little bit like Hitler to me... Remember Hitlet claimed his invasion of Poland was in self-defense.
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I found it strange
that Mr. Foxman from the ADL used his close, personal and, I imagine, emotional connection to the Holocaust as if to imply that as such he couldn't be politically motivated in one direction or another. The first doesn't imply the second for me - and the first, I might add, might make for a lack of objectivity. Just a suggestion.
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israel is stepping on their dicks
my goodness, there is room for a jewish and a muslim state in palestine. i have friends both palestinian & israeli,living there with children wondering WTF is the best thing to do. for the record, my israeli friends pulled up stakes and moved to germany. my palestiniian friends remain, living in jerusulam and (trying) to work in israel.
my advice to both is, y'all been out in the sun too long...
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let's break the smears down into categories
Forgive me if somebody has already come up with this idea, which is this:
let's break down the right's Hitler/Nazi comparisons into categories based on issue. We could collect references to Iraq, to Iran, to global warming and etc.
Here's a start: Media Matters lists a couple of different occasions where Beck likens Gore's movement to combat global warming to Hitler and the Nazis. Here's a link:
http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=beck+gore+nazis
This could be an interesting project -- and charts seem to help people see the big picture.
Thanks!
Jeffrey B
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Piet Hein and the ADL
The Danish poet/mathenmatician Piet Hein once wrote the following poem. I think it fits this case.
"In view of your manner of spending your days
I hope you will learn, before ending them
that the effort you spend on defending your ways
had better be spend on amending them."
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Nazis that he maybe ok with (and maybe not)?
Mr. Greenwald seems to be obsessed with all faults of Israel, any organization that defends the rights of Jews (even if it is incidental to the defense of all persons rights) and also seems to feel that Jewish orgs MUST police the use of the term "Nazi" by anyone who has nothing to do with their organization. At the same time he feels that any one who defends the constitutional rights of Jews in America or speaks at all favorably about Israel is a fifth columnist. I suggest people read his entire bio on wikipedia to get a better feel for his thinking were you will find this
".....One of Greenwald's more notable clients was neo-Nazi Matthew Hale. Hale was eventually jailed and tried for solicitation of murder against Joan Lefkow, who had been the federal judge in the trademark case. ...."
Funny it seems that he doesn't mind some people using the term "Nazi" just the ones he feels shouldn't use it as an insult with out his permission.
Go figure out where this guy comes from (pardon the dp).
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antiabortion holocaust imagery
i'd also like to hear the ADL condemn the rampant use of holocaust imagery against legal abortion.
i'm a contributor to ADL who would like to know their answers to Greenwald's questions. they have been very right-wing for a long time.
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A lot of misinformation
For example, this: "650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000)". You might think from this entry that Marxists killed 450,000 people.
These people were murdered after the military coup putting General Suharto in power. Suharto was preferable for U.S. interests to any socialist or populist who might risk the flow of oil out of Indonesia (you see, oil again). The initial victims were people who were Communists, labor activists and social activists. The American embassy in Jakarta provided the initial lists to the Suharto regime. After awhile, when you're killing people, though, you just improvise. Many ethnic Chinese were targeted because they were, well, Chinese.
There was a famous investigative report about fifteen years ago that documented the U.S. embassy's connection to the mass murder. When asked about American involvement, an embassy official said, "We just wrote the list."
Now what was the point of that post again?