Letters to the Editor
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"evidence"
the difference is Glenn uses evidence, you rely on belief.
Oh please. When you believe it, it's "evidence." When you don't, it's "belief."
Glenn uses the 10 year track record of lying pundits to expose them. I use a 1000 year track record of anti-Semites obsessing about Jewish media/money control to expose them. But since someone says they aren't "anti-Semitic" or cursorily acknowledges "anti-Semitism exists" while going on to dismiss it, I need more evidence. O-tay.
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it's actually easier than that
When Glenn says someone said something, he quotes it. When you say someone (or in your hyperbolic way "everyone") says something, you can't quote it.
There it is.
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"critical analysis"
Oh please. Point me to a shred of critical analysis in anything you wrote on the subject. All you have done is assert that people are denying the existence of anti-semitism.
Assertion is not analysis.
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The Double Standard Dance
Assertion is not analysis.
You're like a gerbil running around a wheel convinced you're in a field of grass.
Glenn does the exact same thing I do. But when you agree with it, it's "analysis" and when you don't, it's "assertion."
When it's David Ignatius, we can parse his words for their real meaning, their narcissism, their cluelessness. When it's a poster on here, it's the "but I didn't explicitly say that!" defense, somewhere between the Dick Cheney War Crimes defense and the Joe Klein head in the sand cluelessness.
You will always see those points you agree with as being more solid then those you don't. That's human nature.
The difference is you're claiming I'm doing something different, and I'm claiming we're doing the same thing. I just disagree with your conclusions, not your methodology.
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WinS
"critical analysis"
Oh please. Point me to a shred of critical analysis in anything you wrote on the subject. All you have done is assertthat people are denying the existence of anti-semitism.
Assertion is not analysis.
-- lupercus
Since you, WinS, said nothing but...well, nothing, in reply to Lupercus post, I thought I'd give you another chance to answer the post rather than just regurgitate some more.
Give it another try.
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Projection or plant?
WinSmith:
R.T. thank you not only for your genius role as the Macguffin in "L.A. Comfidential," but for the perfect post to sum up everything I've attempted to fight against in this, the first true left wing fever swamp, I've encountered. I guess I needed to see that we had our own Freeperville. I'd seen hints of it on DailyKos, but never to this level of hysteria and utter pathology.
Utterly revealing. and utterly depressing.
You start with the usual nonsense questioning who I "really" am, the wonderful undercut of internet anonymity. Am I NeoCon? Or maybe an ADL plant?
Sure it has nothing to do with anything I said (just as Glenn's background has nothing to do with his arguments), but damn if it doesn't help to discredit that annoying "Other" who's raining on your dittohead parade around here.
I think we have a winner.
WinSmith, you came in here angry and tried to belittle Glenn from the get-go as being somehow obsessed with the ADL, and have tried to do the same with just about everyone who has crossed your path since. And you belittled other minorities in the process. When we point out that you are not holding yourself to standards that you are requiring others to maintain, you go even more ballistic and, as Glenn and others have noted, you continuously put words in our mouths that we didn't say. By grouping us all here as some sort of a hysterical “Freeperville,” you are doing the precise stereotyping that you are accusing us of doing.
Glenn pointed out early on that you were here to pick fights, and wisely backed out of engaging with you. What are you trying to accomplish? If it's to make us more aware of your concerns of anti-Semitism, you are failing miserably, especially when you try to demean us and ignore previous sacrifices made on your behalf by people we know and love. If it's to self-aggrandize or prove rhetorical prowess, you have tripped on a banana peel time after time here.
And, if you had read Lind’s piece (the link to the full piece is in the previous comment), you would note he talked about the neo-conservative movement consisting of a pentagon, of which certain Jewish interests composed but one side. You would also note that he said Southern Protestant fundamentalists were more likely to agree with the Likud party than Jewish-Americans.
I'll have to hand you one thing, though. You probably can type out comments faster than I could physically hit a bunch of keys randomly and hit "Publish," but you know what? My postings would demonstrate a lot less anger and not ultimately weaken my case.
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This is not the right room for an argument
I make a comment pointing out that you're only asserting, not analysing, and you respond with: another assertion.
Glenn does the exact same thing I do.
When you just make statements without backing them up with anything (other than florid insults like "You're like a gerbil running around a wheel convinced you're in a field of grass"), that's not analytical in any sense of the word I'm familiar with.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't.
A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.(short pause)
A: No it isn't.
M: It is.
A: Not at all.
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Unabomber
I'll have to hand you one thing, though. You probably can type out comments faster than I could physically hit a bunch of keys randomly and hit "Publish," but you know what? My postings would demonstrate a lot less anger and not ultimately weaken my case.
-- rollotomasi
The Unabomber was similar to WinS in that he was also a prolific screed typer.